Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2058 on: May 10, 2021, 05:38:21 PM »
I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is, but it has nothing to do with the question I asked Bill Brown, who claimed in the interview that "McWatters testified that Oswald got on the bus"

What you provide is at best that McWatters wrote in an affidavit that a man got on the bus who looked like the # 2 man in the line up but which he could not positively identify.

Obviously, Bill Brown misrepresented the facts when he claimed that "McWatters testified that Oswald got on the bus", unless of course I am missing something and Bill can show me that actual piece of testimony.

What you provide is at best that McWatters wrote in an affidavit that a man got on the bus who looked like the # 2 man in the line up but which he could not positively identify.
It supports your beef against BillB. Now how does that have "nothing to do" with the question you asked Bill Brown?
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2059 on: May 10, 2021, 05:44:06 PM »
What you provide is at best that McWatters wrote in an affidavit that a man got on the bus who looked like the # 2 man in the line up but which he could not positively identify.
It supports your beef against BillB. Now how does that have "nothing to do" with the question you asked Bill Brown?

No it does not support my beef against BillB, whatever that is supposed to mean.

I am asking Bill Brown to show me where in his testimony McWatters said "Oswald got on the bus".

It really isn't all that difficult to understand

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2060 on: May 10, 2021, 05:57:52 PM »
No it does not support my beef against BillB, whatever that is supposed to mean.

I am asking Bill Brown to show me where in his testimony McWatters said "Oswald got on the bus".

It really isn't all that difficult to understand

It really isn't all that difficult to understand
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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2061 on: May 10, 2021, 06:28:09 PM »
I knew I had seen you mention 3 minutes before

Right.  I said three minutes.  But that's not what you erroneously claimed that I said.

Since when does saying that Callaway reached the scene three minutes after the shots mean that Callaway was at the police radio in LESS THAN three minutes?

You really don't understand the difference?

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2062 on: May 10, 2021, 06:29:43 PM »
I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is, but it has nothing to do with the question I asked Bill Brown, who claimed in the interview that "McWatters testified that Oswald got on the bus"

I've already explained this.  Go back and look.

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2063 on: May 10, 2021, 07:03:45 PM »
Jack tatum confirms it was Oswald who fired the shots

Where can I find his testimony?
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This is the Tatum testimony to the HSCA, Martin.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/tatum.htm

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #2064 on: May 10, 2021, 07:11:10 PM »
Right.  I said three minutes.  But that's not what you erroneously claimed that I said.

Since when does saying that Callaway reached the scene three minutes after the shots mean that Callaway was at the police radio in LESS THAN three minutes?

You really don't understand the difference?
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Right.  I said three minutes.

Indeed, so when you disagreed with my statement you were wrong. No biggie, why not simply admit it?


But that's not what you erroneously claimed that I said.

Since when does saying that Callaway reached the scene three minutes after the shots mean that Callaway was at the police radio in LESS THAN three minutes?


Changing the goal posts? Really?

I claimed you had said that Callaway reached the scene less than three minutes after shots.
You disagreed and wanted me to show you where you said it. Which is exactly what I did.

Now you show where I "erroneously" claimed that Callaway was at the police radio in less than three minutes?


You really don't understand the difference?

What difference? The difference between what I actually said and what you falsely claim I have said. Sure I understand that difference.


Here it is;


Ted Callaway is at the patrol car reporting the shooting at 1:19 and his description of his actions tells us that he's at that patrol car probably three minutes after the shots rang out.


to which I replied;


If Callaway is at the patrol car three minutes after the shots, he must have arrived at the scene in less than 3 minutes as he did not go straight away to the patrol car but checked on Tippit first. In December 2020 you actually agree with this.


Although you will likely not admit it - after all the great Bill Brown can't be wrong (that's sarcasm, btw) - you are wrong again.


One more thing. If you have Callaway at the patrol car reporting the shooting within 3 minutes after the shots, at 1:19 you have the shooting taking place at 1:16 PM.

But the DPD radio tapes has Bowley making his 46 seconds call at 1:17 PM
And before that you have Benavides waiting 40 seconds in his car until the killer had gone and needing one minute to try and operate the radio.

It doesn't add up. Can you explain the descrepancy?
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