Lee Oswald The Cop Killer

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1610 on: October 23, 2019, 11:09:36 PM »
Here's another.  Pronounced DOA at 1:15 pm.


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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1611 on: October 23, 2019, 11:31:40 PM »
There is absolutely no evidence that the document in question was an evidence list of items turned over to the FBI on 11/22 or that it was even written on 11/22.  Or even that CE637 is a 3x5 card.

Dear John,  I'm sorry that you'll have to find someone who knows elementary arithmetic , so you will be able to scale a photo of CE 637 and determine that the card measures 3 inches by five inches....  You'll notice in his testimony Detective Studebaker said that hey were using 1 inch wide "Magic Mending tape"

Mr. BALL. But you did dust it and lift some print?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes.
Mr. BALL. When you say you taped it, what did you do, cover it with some paper?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. We have - it's like a Magic Mending Tape, only we use it just strictly for fingerprinting.
Mr. BALL. Let's stick with the paper.
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Well, on the paper I put a piece of 1 inch tape over it - I'm sure I did.
Mr. BALL. After you dusted the print, you put a 1 inch tape over it?
Mr. STUDEBAKER. Yes, sir.

Now, since it's very easy to measure the tape in a photo of CE 637.... Anybody with a middle school education can scale the photo to determine the dimensions of the index card.   

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1612 on: October 23, 2019, 11:38:02 PM »
Dear John,  I'm sorry that you'll have to find someone who knows elementary arithmetic , so you will be able to scale a photo of CE 637 and determine that the card measures 3 inches by five inches....  You'll notice in his testimony Detective Studebaker said that hey were using 1 inch wide "Magic Mending tape"

Studebaker didn't take this alleged lift.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1613 on: October 23, 2019, 11:56:42 PM »
Studebaker didn't take this alleged lift.

Duh!.... Who said that he did?....   I merely determined the tape they were using was 1 inch wide....  I'm sorry that you'll have to find someone to scale a photo of CE 637 and use the 1 inch width of the tape to determine that the card is 3 inches by  5 inches.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1614 on: October 23, 2019, 11:57:36 PM »
Duh!.... Who said that he did?....   I merely determined the tape they were using was 1 inch wide....  I'm sorry that you'll have to find someone to scale a photo of CE 637 and use the 1 inch width of the tape to determine that the card is 3 inches by  5 inches.

How do you know that Day and Studebaker used the same kind of tape?

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1615 on: October 24, 2019, 12:03:38 AM »
Gary Savage, "JFK First Day Evidence", p. 108

"He told Rusty and me that he could tell it wasn't put on there recently by the way it took the fingerprint powder. He said what makes a print of this sort is a lack of moisture, and this print had dried out. He said he took a small camel hair brush and dipped it in fingerprint powder and lightly brushed it. He then placed a strip of 2" scotch tape over the developed print and rubbed it down before finally lifting the tape containing the print off and placed it on a card. He said he then compared the lift to Oswald's palm print card and was certain that it was Oswald's. He also said that after the lift, he could still see an impression of the palm print left on the barrel."

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1616 on: October 24, 2019, 12:41:00 AM »
What do you mean with "it wasn't"... to make that determination one needs a rock solid time source to make the comparision with.

You seem to assume that the "official time" was indeed exactly accurate.

What do you mean with "it wasn't"... to make that determination one needs a rock solid time source to make the comparision with.

For the third time: If the clocks used by the dispatchers were more than a minute or two off of official time, then his time and station check at 12:30 would have been off accordingly. It wasn’t.