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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1192 on: April 23, 2019, 08:02:17 AM »
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But one thing they both saw was Oswald at-the-trot.

You seem to have an amazing confidence in unreliable eye-witnesses.

Callaway ID'd Oswald. Of course you find that unreliable.
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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #1193 on: April 23, 2019, 11:22:11 AM »
Callaway ID'd Oswald. Of course you find that unreliable.

I find every identification by an eyewitness unreliable, ever since I once saw a robbery happening just a few feet away from me. It all happened in a few seconds and although I saw the robber from a short distance, I could not honestly describe or identify him with 100% certainty.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1194 on: April 23, 2019, 01:10:07 PM »
Oh, I get it.

Bowley's watch was 100% correct.

Markham's estimate of what time it was when she left her residence was 100% spot on.

The clock on the wall at Methodist was 100% perfect.

....... and the Dallas police tapes were tampered with.

Got it.

You wouldn?t be stretching things in an attempt to make your point more valid, now would you?

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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #1195 on: April 23, 2019, 08:54:36 PM »
You wouldn?t be stretching things in an attempt to make your point more valid, now would you?

Of course he would. 

Markham tells us in her testimony that she left home on 9th street "at a little after one". She only needed to walk two blocks (a distance of about 0,2 mile or roughly 4 minutes) to get to the bus stop at Jefferson. In her testimony she added "I wouldn't be afraid to bet it wasn't 6 or 7 minutes after 1" but even if that estimate was spot on, she still would have arrived at 10th/Patton at around 1.10.

So, in order for her to witness the shooting of Tippit on 10th/Patton at 1.15 pm she would have needed the better part of at least 5 to 10 minutes to cover the distance of one block. And even then, it doesn't add up, as Markham estimated that she usually catched the bus at 1.15 pm, which means that she still could not have been at 10th/Patton to watch the shooting at that exact same time!

However, the bus schedule for Markham's bus allegedly gives arrival times at the Jefferson stop as 1.12 and 1.22. I say "allegedly" because I have never seen a copy of the schedule. Anyway, in order to desperately get Markham at 10th/Patton at around 1.15 pm Bill Brown dreamed up a scenario in which Markham didn't catch a delayed 1.12 bus (perhaps he thinks no busses were ever delayed in those days) at 1.15 but instead (according to Bill) she really took the 1.22 bus every day.

The problem remains of course that Markham said she left home "a little after one" to walk two blocks in about 4 minutes to the bus stop. So what was she usually doing between 1.06 and 1.22, on those days when she did not witness a murder at 1.15?


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« Reply #1196 on: April 23, 2019, 09:34:01 PM »
Her washateria clock was perpetually slow, and she never noticed.  Probably because the clock at the Eat Well restaurant was chronically slow as well.  That's the ticket.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1197 on: April 23, 2019, 09:48:38 PM »
Her washateria clock was perpetually slow, and she never noticed.  Probably because the clock at the Eat Well restaurant was chronically slow as well.  That's the ticket.

On the other hand the machine that time stamped the call for Tippit's ambulance was of course spot on and would show us all that call came in at 1:18.

Too bad that nobody has been able to produce that elusive time stamped card for more than half a decade.

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« Reply #1198 on: April 23, 2019, 09:53:25 PM »
I find every identification by an eyewitness unreliable, ever since I once saw a robbery happening just a few feet away from me. It all happened in a few seconds and although I saw the robber from a short distance, I could not honestly describe or identify him with 100% certainty.

Callaway is joined by others in ID'ing Oswald

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1199 on: April 23, 2019, 10:01:34 PM »
Callaway is joined by others in ID'ing Oswald

Sure he is... and most of them only saw the killer for seconds. They all must have had 20/20 vision and perfect ID skills.

Having gone through the experience myself I just don't buy it.

Your desperation of clinging to those line up ID's whilst at the same time claiming (as all LNs have to) that the Dealey Plaza witnesses were unreliable is remarkable!


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