Oswald's lies proves his guilt.

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #196 on: November 07, 2019, 12:07:55 AM »
This is almost exactly how Trump supporters think. To wit, he's a patsy, he was set up by the deep state.

All of those things he did - trying to obstruct the Muller investigation, pressuring foreign governments to investigate his political opponents - are ignored because "they" and "them" set him up. His supporters want to look at everyone else but not at what he did. It's remarkable how similar the thinking is.

Oswald never had a house, never had a car, never had a phone, never had a decent job. He had to travel using buses. He spent long stretches living on unemployment checks. He and his wife had to live apart because of his poverty. He had nothing.

But no, actually he was a sheep-dipped CIA agent sent into the Soviet Union. Then brought back to spy on pro-Castro groups. In the middle of the Cold War the CIA relied on this pathetic nobody. Who worked for free.

It's absurd. It's worse than absurd: it's simply not true.

But..... what did he bring to work the morning of the assassination?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #197 on: November 07, 2019, 12:19:07 AM »
Oswald may have done all his own sheep-dipping and ordered the rifle, posed for the backyard photos holding both murder weapons and commie lit (cough, cough), smuggled the rifle into the TSBD, set up the sniper's nest and even taken some shots at the POTUS and even shot Tippit to death. But he was not a lone nut assassin who just happened to get a job right next to the motorcade route. He was a patsy. Once you acknowledge that as fact, all Oswald's actions fit like a glove and all your questions get answered without being twisted like a pretzel into the LN narrative.

LNers just can't get past Oswald being a patsy. They are actually conspiracy deniers who have been inadvertent shills for the conspirators. Their ghosts thank you LNers for your patronage. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! BEST COUP EVER!

posed for the backyard photos holding both murder weapons

You're a nut....  Lee posed for ONE BY photo.....  and the guns in the photos are NOT the murder weapons.....

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #198 on: November 07, 2019, 08:58:07 AM »
This is almost exactly how Trump supporters think. To wit, he's a patsy, he was set up by the deep state.

All of those things he did - trying to obstruct the Muller investigation, pressuring foreign governments to investigate his political opponents - are ignored because "they" and "them" set him up. His supporters want to look at everyone else but not at what he did. It's remarkable how similar the thinking is.

Oswald never had a house, never had a car, never had a phone, never had a decent job. He had to travel using buses. He spent long stretches living on unemployment checks. He and his wife had to live apart because of his poverty. He had nothing.

But no, actually he was a sheep-dipped CIA agent sent into the Soviet Union. Then brought back to spy on pro-Castro groups. In the middle of the Cold War the CIA relied on this pathetic nobody. Who worked for free.

It's absurd. It's worse than absurd: it's simply not true.

Oswald never had a house, never had a car, never had a phone, never had a decent job. He had to travel using buses. He spent long stretches living on unemployment checks. He and his wife had to live apart because of his poverty. He had nothing.

And that tells you, what exactly?

I'm not saying Oswald was one, but when police officers, investigators, spies etc go undercover, do you really think they do it on a 9 to 5, 5 day week basis and return home every night after work?

But no, actually he was a sheep-dipped CIA agent sent into the Soviet Union. Then brought back to spy on pro-Castro groups. In the middle of the Cold War the CIA relied on this pathetic nobody. Who worked for free.

How do you know that he was a "pathetic nobody" who worked for free? Did you know the guy personally or do you simply rely on what you are told?

It's absurd. It's worse than absurd: it's simply not true.

What is really absurd is that you make a determination on nothing else but what you (want to) believe.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2019, 10:15:58 AM by Martin Weidmann »

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #199 on: November 07, 2019, 12:10:58 PM »
Kleins initiated the rifle order 13 months before they received delivery and then 9 months before delivery Kleins changed the order to a different rifle.


Again, how do you know when Klein's took delivery of those rifles?

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #200 on: November 07, 2019, 09:10:52 PM »
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Hi Peter, I don't know what you're asking for, put the question in your own words and I'll see what I can do.

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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #201 on: November 07, 2019, 11:47:15 PM »
This is almost exactly how Trump supporters think. To wit, he's a patsy, he was set up by the deep state.

All of those things he did - trying to obstruct the Muller investigation, pressuring foreign governments to investigate his political opponents - are ignored because "they" and "them" set him up. His supporters want to look at everyone else but not at what he did. It's remarkable how similar the thinking is.

Is that how you Forever Trumpers really think? You must also think Trump is a lone nut/Russian asset just like Oswald. You might be onto something there if the LNer BS wasn't concocted by the WC conspirators as part of the coup.

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Oswald never had a house, never had a car, never had a phone, never had a decent job. He had to travel using buses. He spent long stretches living on unemployment checks. He and his wife had to live apart because of his poverty. He had nothing.

But no, actually he was a sheep-dipped CIA agent sent into the Soviet Union. Then brought back to spy on pro-Castro groups. In the middle of the Cold War the CIA relied on this pathetic nobody. Who worked for free.

Every good coup needs a lone nut patsy. Do you think they grow on trees? Thomas Arthur Vallee was Plan A in Chicago, but his cover got blown so Oswald was up for Plan B in Dallas. Get out of your LN bubble and smell the coffee.

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It's absurd. It's worse than absurd: it's simply not true.

"Not true" is worse than "absurd"? Ok. You realize that absurd speculation doesn't make Oswald a LN by default, right? Why is a conspiracy so hard to imagine at a time when Hoover was the defacto mafia boss, JFK was at war with Dulles and the CIA after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, the Cuban Missile Crisis put the world on the brink of war, etc.? There were several groups lining up to get a piece of JFK. He was the original enemy of the Deep State. Conspiracies and coups did happen back then. The Gulf of Tonkin conspiracy comes to mind.

Are you trying to conflate Trump's situation with Oswald being framed as the patsy or Kennedy's coup d'État? What's your Trumputin perspective?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #202 on: November 08, 2019, 12:12:40 AM »
Is that how you Forever Trumpers really think? You must also think Trump is a lone nut/Russian asset just like Oswald. You might be onto something there if the LNer BS wasn't concocted by the WC conspirators as part of the coup.

Every good coup needs a lone nut patsy. Do you think they grow on trees? Thomas Arthur Vallee was Plan A in Chicago, but his cover got blown so Oswald was up for Plan B in Dallas. Get out of your LN bubble and smell the coffee.

"Not true" is worse than "absurd"? Ok. You realize that absurd speculation doesn't make Oswald a LN by default, right? Why is a conspiracy so hard to imagine at a time when Hoover was the defacto mafia boss, JFK was at war with Dulles and the CIA after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, the Cuban Missile Crisis put the world on the brink of war, etc.? There were several groups lining up to get a piece of JFK. He was the original enemy of the Deep State. Conspiracies and coups did happen back then. The Gulf of Tonkin conspiracy comes to mind.

Are you trying to conflate Trump's situation with Oswald being framed as the patsy or Kennedy's coup d'État? What's your Trumputin perspective?

the Cuban Missile Crisis put the world on the brink of war, etc.?


JFK was on the brink of ordering the Marines to Cuba.... ( I know, I was personally involved)  Thank God that he didn't order the Marines to attack because the Russians troops in Cuba, had nuclear weapons as big as the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima , aimed at cities in the southern US and Gitmo.    After the crisis JFK had no sure way of knowing that the nukes had been removed from Cuba.....Thus he had men like Lee Oswald who were trying to gain access to Cuba.