Oswald's lies proves his guilt.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #119 on: October 25, 2019, 02:58:34 PM »
Even though the Dallas equivalent has never been seen/found, the New Orleans Post Office Application shows that Oswald already had your feeble objections worked out and it's reasonable to conclude that if Oswald was having stuff sent to Hidell while he was in Dallas, Oswald would have had Hidell's name on that form as well.

CE2585, p. 4:

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12. CLAIM: The Post Office Box in Dallas to which Oswald had the rifle mailed was kept under both his name and that of 'A. Hidell ." Page 111.

INVESTIGATION: Our investigation has revealed that Oswald did not indicate on his application that others, including an 'A . Hidell,' would receive mail through the box in question, which was Post Office Box 2915 in Dallas. This box was obtained by Oswald on October 9, 1962, and relinquished by him on May 14, 1963.
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Besides, who said that "Oswald was having stuff sent to Hidell"?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #120 on: October 25, 2019, 03:42:46 PM »

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Define "absolute proof"?



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Show me something that PROVES that Lee OWNED ( legally owned ) the carcano that was found in the TSBD.    A photo that shows he possessed a carcano that was NOT identical to the TSBD carcano, won't cut it. ....  and when you provide that proof... Then we'll take the next step....

I'll grant you that Lee ordered A carcano from Kleins to use as a photo prop, and to be left behind in the hoax shooting at Walker's .....But was it his money that bought the MO to purchase the rifle??...  There is very good reason to doubt that he bought the money order ....and if it was not he, nor his money, that bought the money order then it was NOT his rifle....
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #121 on: October 25, 2019, 07:41:52 PM »

While in custody Oswald LIED whenever the rifle was discussed.

1. Oswald lied about owning the rifle.
2. Oswald lied that the backyard photos weren't authentic.
3. Oswald said he never saw the BY photos before but his handwriting was discovered on one.
3. Oswald lied about putting the long package on the back seat of Frazier's car.
4. Oswald told Frazier the long package contained curtain rods but told the Dallas Police that it contained his lunch.
5. Oswald lied about living at Neeley Street, (the location of the incriminating backyard photos)
6. Oswald told Fritz at the time of the assassination he had lunch with Jarman, another lie.
7. Oswald denied that he told Frazier that the reason for his unexpected visit was for curtain rods.





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Is lying an indication of guilt?    If it is...Then the authorities are guilty, because they piled lie upon lie in the framing of Lee Oswald.

One of the key lies  was presented by Dallas DA Henry Wade..... On Saturday 11 /23/63 neither the DPD nor he FBI had found any print on the rifle that had been identified as the print of Lee Oswald   ( that's still true today) But Henry Wade told reporters ( as if it was an after thought)  " Oh, and did I mention that they have found his prints on the gun?"     This was a barefaced lie....   At the time that Wade sucked those reporters in with that lie, nobody had found an identifiable print on the rifle.   

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #122 on: October 25, 2019, 08:07:48 PM »
Forget about that seven-point list, go with the wedding ring in tea cup and the tilt!

No,  let's NOT forget....  Because Mr Mytton is flat WRONG.....

 Oswald lied that the backyard photos weren't authentic.

Lee couldn't possibly have lied about the back yard PHOTOS ( Plural).....Because at the time Lee was shown A (singular )photo they had not been officially discovered.

Captain Fritz displayed "A" ( singular ) photo to Lee, and lee immediately pronounced it to be fake.  Since CE 133A and CE 133B were officially found in the Paine's garage about an hour AFTER Fritz displayed the photo to Lee we can surmise that the photo that Lee pronounced to be a fake was 133c.     

So Lee DID NOT lie about the PHOTOS being authentic...He said the photo that he was shown was a fake. 

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #123 on: October 25, 2019, 09:54:25 PM »
At the time that Wade sucked those reporters in with that lie, nobody had found an identifiable print on the rifle.   

Or indeed at any time.

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #124 on: October 25, 2019, 11:36:33 PM »
Hope you have your research down on this one, Walt.

Just an hour off and you could be in trouble. Mr. Iacoletti, you know!

You worked out the time line?

Check it out for yourself.....Read Captain Fritz Report on page 607 of the WR.....

 
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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #125 on: October 25, 2019, 11:46:26 PM »
Forget about that seven-point list, go with the wedding ring in tea cup and the tilt!

Why forget any evidence, you don't solve any murder by ignoring the facts.

And as for the tilt, too bad that's already been scientifically dealt with.



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