There was No Roll Call at the TSBD !

[Colin Crow]

Rowland did exaggerate.....BRW's age. Why do Jarman and Norman get away with repeatedly lying about Williams being with them on the elevator ascent up until their appearances before the WC? How come they get a free pass?

[Walt Cakebread]

Rowland did exaggerate.....BRW's age. Why do Jarman and Norman get away with repeatedly lying about Williams being with them on the elevator ascent up until their appearances before the WC? How come they get a free pass?

Why do Jarman and Norman get away with repeatedly lying about Williams being with them on the elevator ascent up until their appearances before the WC?

I have never heard that Bonnie Ray Williams was also on the elevator at 12:27 with Jarman and Norman....Where did you get this idea??

[Walt Cakebread]

Yes we do and further we know that BRW went down to the fifth floor because he heard "movement" coming from the floor below. The issue being was that Norman and Jarman didn't arrive to the 5th floor until at least 12.25 pm - a time that mirrored when Arnold no longer saw the Negro gentleman in the SE corner of the 6th floor.



The HSCA did not call up BRW. 

Remarkable.

Thanks, Tony.......   The information you posted should wipe out the idea that Bonnie Ray Williams was on the elevator with Jarman and Norman....

[Colin Crow]

Why do Jarman and Norman get away with repeatedly lying about Williams being with them on the elevator ascent up until their appearances before the WC?

I have never heard that Bonnie Ray Williams was also on the elevator at 12:27 with Jarman and Norman....Where did you get this idea??

Read the statements by Jarman and Norman prior to their WC testimonies.

[Jack Nessan]

Who cares? Can you show that Arnold made it up or not?

Don't worry abou humiliating yourself. Go to any sporting goods store and tell them you would like to purchase a 30 odd six rifle and a box of 30 odd six ammunition.

[Walt Cakebread]

What do you note Walt that is not true in this FBI report?

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10730&relPageId=15&search=norman]

Compare that to what he told the WC:

Mr. BALL - Were you with anybody when you were at the window? Did you talk to anybody?
Mr. JARMAN - No; I did not.
Mr. BALL - Were you with anybody when you were walking around finishing your sandwich?
Mr. JARMAN - No; I wasn't, I was trying to get through so I could get out on the street.
Mr. BALL - Did you see Lee Oswald?
Mr. JARMAN - No; I didn't.
Mr. BALL - After his arrest, he stated to a police officer that he had had lunch with you. Did you have lunch with him?
Mr. JARMAN - No, sir; I didn't.
Mr. BALL - When you finished your sandwich and your bottle of pop, what did you do?
Mr. JARMAN - I throwed the paper that I had the sandwich in in the box over close to the telephone and I took the pop bottle and put it in the case over by the Dr. Pepper machine.
Mr. BALL - And then what did you do?
Mr. JARMAN - Then I went out in front of the building.
Mr. BALL - With who?
Mr. JARMAN - Harold Norman, Bonnie Ray, and Danny Arce and myself.
Mr. BALL - You say Bonnie Ray Williams?
Mr. JARMAN - Bonnie Ray Williams.
Mr. BALL - Do you remember him going with you?
Mr. JARMAN - No; I am sorry. Excuse me, but it was Harold Norman and myself and Daniel Arce.

What do you note Walt that is not true in this FBI report?

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10730&relPageId=15&search=norman]

Tony, I don't believe the report is so much " untrue" but it is totally inaccurate..... which makes it untrue....

I believe that Norman and Jarman did eat lunch together in the Domino Room at about noon....but Williams did not go outside with Jarman and Norman....  Why Williams went up to the sixth floor??  I don't know....But, I suspect that he was being set up as an accomplice  to be found dead up there after the coup d e'tat.

Williams was a young naive kid who would have done what he was told to do by Roy Truly, or Bill Shelley....If one of them had told him that they had a task for him, and they wanted  to go up to the sixth floor and wait for them ....He would have complied without question......

[Jack Nessan]

Rowland did exaggerate.....BRW's age. Why do Jarman and Norman get away with repeatedly lying about Williams being with them on the elevator ascent up until their appearances before the WC? How come they get a free pass?

It wasn't quite that benign. Rowland states he seen a person hanging out the window. How would he know how tall that person was how much he weighed. He also describes him as balding with gray hair and a wrinkled face. Quite a description about someone that earlier in his statement he wasn't sure of anything about the person including his race.