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2 wallets for Lee Harvey Oswald alias Alek Hidell
Mike Orr:
We see a wallet at the Tippit murder scene via film and we "hear" that a wallet was taken off of Oswald while in the police car after he is arrested in the Texas Theater. We either have 2 wallets or someone is not telling the truth ! It seems like there was so many instances of situations not adding up ,that keeps this assassination of JFK and the murder of JD Tippit to be believable. I feel like I'm running in a circle trying to figure out what is going on. It all started with a Mauser and has gone down hill ever since !!!!!
Richard Smith:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on April 16, 2018, 07:24:27 PM --- So I must theorize? How about you comment on what is seemingly a fact, a picture with Oswald's wallet in Westbrook's hand, witness testimony etc. What would it be in the order of things that I need to comment on what exactly went wrong with a plan I have knowledge. It opens the land of pure conjecture and it seems to your favorite form of fantasy land
I kind of changed my mind and will offer a scenario That being said I am familiar with those who insist on taking to frames of examination such as yours Critics of a particular theory must provide the correct version of all events at the same time Anyway you want a shot at it, I will give you one Lets say the conspirators wanted to frame Oswald, and it was important to them to either capture him or kill him shortly after the assassination Therefore you would want a contingent reason to take him into custody, so you create the circumstances with the Tippit murder until you have him in custody Then once you have him in custody, it may look better to not use the wallet evidence because lets face it it looks a little suspicious for the suspect to seemingly leave his wallet at the scene
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Why do you refer to it as Oswald's wallet? There is no evidence to support that conclusion. They are looking at something that appears to be a wallet or maybe Tippit's citation book. But who it belongs too is not apparent from the picture. To suggest that it is a confirmed "fact" that it belongs to Oswald is nonsense. You believe the conspirators planned to leave Oswald's wallet at the Tippit murder scene and in fact did leave it but then out of the blue suddenly decided for some unknown reason that it would be suspicious for his wallet to be found there? Why didn't they reach that conclusion before leaving it? And they needed a reason other than assassinating a president to have him taken into custody? And they somehow knew he would encounter and murder Tippit? Honestly, that is ridiculous.
Matt Grantham:
--- Quote from: Richard Smith on April 17, 2018, 02:39:20 PM ---Why do you refer to it as Oswald's wallet? There is no evidence to support that conclusion. They are looking at something that appears to be a wallet or maybe Tippit's citation book. But who it belongs too is not apparent from the picture. To suggest that it is a confirmed "fact" that it belongs to Oswald is nonsense. You believe the conspirators planned to leave Oswald's wallet at the Tippit murder scene and in fact did leave it but then out of the blue suddenly decided for some unknown reason that it would be suspicious for his wallet to be found there? Why didn't they reach that conclusion before leaving it? And they needed a reason other than assassinating a president to have him taken into custody? And they somehow knew he would encounter and murder Tippit? Honestly, that is ridiculous.
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Whatever you want to call it is fine with me The wallet in question works. It wasn't meant as a conclusion just a shorthand However lets apply the same standard to the rifle in the snipers nest, the jacket, and anything else
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Richard Smith on April 17, 2018, 02:39:20 PM ---Why do you refer to it as Oswald's wallet? There is no evidence to support that conclusion. They are looking at something that appears to be a wallet or maybe Tippit's citation book. But who it belongs too is not apparent from the picture. To suggest that it is a confirmed "fact" that it belongs to Oswald is nonsense. You believe the conspirators planned to leave Oswald's wallet at the Tippit murder scene and in fact did leave it but then out of the blue suddenly decided for some unknown reason that it would be suspicious for his wallet to be found there? Why didn't they reach that conclusion before leaving it? And they needed a reason other than assassinating a president to have him taken into custody? And they somehow knew he would encounter and murder Tippit? Honestly, that is ridiculous.
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If there had been a wallet with Lee Oswald's ID in it at the Tippit Mirder scene the authorities would have broadcast that information from the rooftops..... The wallet at the murder scene tale didn't surface until decades later.
There definitely was at least one reporter on the scene at the time and it APPEARS? he was interested enough to film the scene and yet he never reported that Lee Oswald's wallet had been found at the scene.....WHY???
Because there was no wallet found at the site of Tippit's murder. The video that SEEMS? to show that is a fake....The wallet in the cop's hand was cut from a video that was taken behind Ballew's Texaco Station.
Matt Grantham:
--- Quote from: Walt Cakebread on April 17, 2018, 07:41:22 PM ---If there had been a wallet with Lee Oswald's IS in it at the Tippit Mirder scene the authorities would have broadcast that information from the rooftops..... The wallet at the murder scene tale didn't surface until decades later.
There definitely was at least one reporter on the scene at the time and it APPEARS? he was interested enough to film the scene and yet he never reported that Lee Oswald's wallet had been found at the scene.....WHY???
Because there was no wallet found at the site of Tippit's murder. The video that SEEMS? to show that is a fake....The wallet in the cop's hand was cut from a video that was taken behind Ballew's Texaco Station.
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That seems to make sense. It does still leave open other possibilities For instance we have to trust that the wallet the DPD has in evidence is the real wallet It seems like the most likely scenario that the wallet supposedly found at theater is the real wallet and the conspirators new roughly the type of wallet LHO had and went to effort to make a facsimile Though there is also a strategy that I think Webster Tarpley mentioned, in terms of the strategies within a conspiracy,, and that is for the conspirators to make as much information as possible a contradiction or confusing in some manner From that perspective it may have made two wallets that just slightly different for that express purpose
Mike Orr Really liked your comment for what that is worth To claim to be certain of exactly what happened in circumstances such as this, is not completely rational and objective
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