JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate > JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate
2 wallets for Lee Harvey Oswald alias Alek Hidell
Richard Smith:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on April 12, 2018, 05:32:05 PM --- It's pretty simple all you have do is to imagine, or except in the abstract, that groups of people can or do conspire, yep I am going to use the forbidden term, to commit crime or intelligence operations Certainly you are not going to suggest that our own intelligence agencies do not plan for contingencies?
Walt I did my best to search online for anything resembling the picture you are referring to Not much more I can do to address your claim
--- End quote ---
A contingency plan for what here? What are you suggesting happened that caused them to change the plan? That is not an explanation for the sequence of events. There isn't any rational narrative for these POWERFUL people planting Oswald's wallet at the crime scene (great evidence to link him to the Tippit murder) to suppress it in favor of Oswald's arrest wallet. Your fantasy conspirators would have known that it was likely that Oswald would have a wallet on him when arrested or killed that day. So any plan that entails leaving a wallet at the Tippit scene must incorporate the likelihood of a second wallet being on Oswald's person upon his arrest/death and plan to suppress that wallet. And imagine the plan of actually leaving a wallet at the Tippit scene, allowing it to be discovered, but then suppressing it. LOL. That makes no sense as a contingency plan or otherwise. It is extremely risky and pointless. If the plan was to frame Oswald for this crime, then all the incentives are to claim that Oswald's wallet was found at the Tippit scene. Instead what is being suggested is that conspirators behind Oswald's frame up suppressed great evidence of his guilt! It just doesn't add up that whoever discovered the wallet would not have radioed in the identity of the suspect and that this valuable evidence of Oswald's guilt would for some inexplicable reason then be covered up by the very folks who otherwise are alleged to be framing him. It's a hodgepodge of nonsense.
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on April 12, 2018, 05:32:05 PM --- It's pretty simple all you have do is to imagine, or except in the abstract, that groups of people can or do conspire, yep I am going to use the forbidden term, to commit crime or intelligence operations Certainly you are not going to suggest that our own intelligence agencies do not plan for contingencies?
Walt I did my best to search online for anything resembling the picture you are referring to Not much more I can do to address your claim
--- End quote ---
Walt I did my best to search online for anything resembling the picture you are referring to
Did you look at the background behind the wallet at the 4: 12 point in the video you posted?
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Y-KiNYT9M
Matt Grantham:
--- Quote from: Richard Smith on April 16, 2018, 03:42:27 PM ---A contingency plan for what here? What are you suggesting happened that caused them to change the plan? That is not an explanation for the sequence of events. There isn't any rational narrative for these POWERFUL people planting Oswald's wallet at the crime scene (great evidence to link him to the Tippit murder) to suppress it in favor of Oswald's arrest wallet. Your fantasy conspirators would have known that it was likely that Oswald would have a wallet on him when arrested or killed that day. So any plan that entails leaving a wallet at the Tippit scene must incorporate the likelihood of a second wallet being on Oswald's person upon his arrest/death and plan to suppress that wallet. And imagine the plan of actually leaving a wallet at the Tippit scene, allowing it to be discovered, but then suppressing it. LOL. That makes no sense as a contingency plan or otherwise. It is extremely risky and pointless. If the plan was to frame Oswald for this crime, then all the incentives are to claim that Oswald's wallet was found at the Tippit scene. Instead what is being suggested is that conspirators behind Oswald's frame up suppressed great evidence of his guilt! It just doesn't add up that whoever discovered the wallet would not have radioed in the identity of the suspect and that this valuable evidence of Oswald's guilt would for some inexplicable reason then be covered up by the very folks who otherwise are alleged to be framing him. It's a hodgepodge of nonsense.
--- End quote ---
So I must theorize? How about you comment on what is seemingly a fact, a picture with Oswald's wallet in Westbrook's hand, witness testimony etc. What would it be in the order of things that I need to comment on what exactly went wrong with a plan I have knowledge. It opens the land of pure conjecture and it seems to your favorite form of fantasy land
I kind of changed my mind and will offer a scenario That being said I am familiar with those who insist on taking to frames of examination such as yours Critics of a particular theory must provide the correct version of all events at the same time Anyway you want a shot at it, I will give you one Lets say the conspirators wanted to frame Oswald, and it was important to them to either capture him or kill him shortly after the assassination Therefore you would want a contingent reason to take him into custody, so you create the circumstances with the Tippit murder until you have him in custody Then once you have him in custody, it may look better to not use the wallet evidence because lets face it it looks a little suspicious for the suspect to seemingly leave his wallet at the scene
Matt Grantham:
--- Quote from: Walt Cakebread on April 16, 2018, 03:58:27 PM ---Walt I did my best to search online for anything resembling the picture you are referring to
Did you look at the background behind the wallet at the 1: 41 point in the video you posted?
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Y-KiNYT9M
--- End quote ---
OK there is a barely recognizable background I have said before I will happily agree that the wallet is seen at the Texaco instead It seems to make little difference in terms of my discussion with Richard and those who want to discount the finding of the wallet Or inform me otherwise please
Walt Cakebread:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on April 16, 2018, 07:37:05 PM --- OK there is a barely recognizable background I have said before I will happily agree that the wallet is seen at the Texaco instead It seems to make little difference in terms of my discussion with Richard and those who want to discount the finding of the wallet Or inform me otherwise please
--- End quote ---
Matt....Someone has spliced frames from Weilands video that he took in the alley behind Ballew's Texaco onto a video that was taken at the Tippit murder site in an effort to make it appear the wallet was found at the Tippit site.....
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version