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Autopsy proves SBT impossible
Zeon Mason:
WTF could possibly the shooter be aiming at with his 1st shot to have completely missed the ENTIRE LIMO?? and at the closest range of only 53 meters away?
This the range MOST of the CBS shooters were able to hit the target in the test trial.
Yet the "expert" sniper for some reason wasnt even aiming at the limo at all and that bullet has never been found.
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: Zeon Mason on May 17, 2018, 04:10:43 AM ---WTF could possibly the shooter be aiming at with his 1st shot to have completely missed the ENTIRE LIMO?? and at the closest range of only 53 meters away?
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Good question.
There is no evidence that any shot missed. In fact, there is evidence that each of the shots hit. There are at least 70 witnesses who provided evidence that the first shot struck JFK (they said either that JFK reacted to his neck wound on the first shot or that the last two shots occurred after JFK is seen reacting to his neck wound in the zfilm). Not a single witness said he smiled and waved after the first shot (which is what the SBT says happened). Gov. Connally, supported by a number of witnesses close-by, gave evidence that he was hit in the torso by the second shot. We can see the effect of the third shot.
Not only is it difficult to understand how the sniper could have missed the entire limo at 160-175 feet, but it is difficult to understand how the bullet could have failed to leave a mark anywhere in Dealey Plaza. It is even more difficult to understand how a missed shot could have given so many people the impression that it struck JFK.
Jack Nessan:
--- Quote from: Andrew Mason on May 16, 2018, 03:37:14 PM ---Except that he reported one shot and then two more, which suggests a 1 and 2-3 grouping which excludes the second shot SBT.
?? That seems to be 4 shots. In his Dec. 17/63 FBI statement he said that he saw dust spray on the pavement on the driver's side of the limo and then "a few seconds" later heard 3 shots.
No. He is an "at least two shots" witness. Read his statement.
Walters is guessing. The curb smear was analyzed and no copper was found, just lead and antimony. That indicates that the curb was struck by a lead fragment.
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You completely and utterly missed the whole point so you could advance this odd unsupported belief in an imaginary shot at Z270. Each of these people are stating that two shots caused all the wounds to the people riding in the car.
Where does Betzner mention a third shot. He doesn't. He mentions a second shot and what happens in the car.
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: Jack Nessan on May 17, 2018, 01:52:21 PM ---
You completely and utterly missed the whole point so you could advance this odd unsupported belief in an imaginary shot at Z270.
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What is imaginary about 45+ people saying there were 3 shots and the last two were closer together? What is imaginary about Hickey saying he was facing JFK on the second shot and kept facing him? He is turned rearward in Altgens' photo at z256. What is imaginary of about Greer saying he turned around to look behind immediately after the second shot and we see him turning from z278 or so to z280? That is evidence of a second shot between z256 and z278. Hickey said JFK's hair on his right side flew up on the second shot. His hair flies up from z273-276.
--- Quote ---Each of these people are stating that two shots caused all the wounds to the people riding in the car.
Where does Betzner mention a third shot. He doesn't. He mentions a second shot and what happens in the car.
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He says that there were at least two shots. That means he is not sure how many but there were a minimum of 2. That is not evidence that there were only two shots. None of these four witnesses went so far to say which shots struck and what they struck.
Jack Trojan:
--- Quote from: Zeon Mason on May 17, 2018, 04:10:43 AM ---WTF could possibly the shooter be aiming at with his 1st shot to have completely missed the ENTIRE LIMO?? and at the closest range of only 53 meters away?
This the range MOST of the CBS shooters were able to hit the target in the test trial.
Yet the "expert" sniper for some reason wasnt even aiming at the limo at all and that bullet has never been found.
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The LNers contend that Oswald lined up JFK thru his wonky scope and missed the entire limo with his 1st shot. Realizing his scope was grossly misaligned, he switched to the iron sights and scored a 2 for 2 in 5 secs flat. But if he was such an expert marksman then he would have known the scope would be useless since he had obviously never fired the rifle before, otherwise, he would have surely zeroed the scope during practice sessions.
Ask yourself why Oswald didn't take the 1st shot when the limo almost stopped turning onto Elm? JFK was delivered to him on a silver platter. How could he miss a stationary target at ~40 feet? And why did the FBI edit the turn onto Elm out of the Z film? And where is the original Z film? It would tell all.
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