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Offline Howard Gee

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Re: Autopsy proves SBT impossible
« Reply #140 on: May 06, 2018, 04:13:03 PM »
What is more imbecilic? 1. to conclude that the probing of the wound path done by Humes was not determinative of the actual path, or 2. to conclude that a finger-sized bullet just stopped after penetrating a few inches of flesh and striking no bone and then disappeared?

I'll go with option 2.

Not to mention that those who insist that JFK's throat wound was an entrance wound are suggesting TWO disappearing bullets.

Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: Autopsy proves SBT impossible
« Reply #141 on: May 06, 2018, 11:59:35 PM »
What is more imbecilic? 1. to conclude that the probing of the wound path done by Humes was not determinative of the actual path, or 2. to conclude that a finger-sized bullet just stopped after penetrating a few inches of flesh and striking no bone and then disappeared?

 Could you elaborate on number one? You believe what Humes said or have you determined something else?

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Autopsy proves SBT impossible
« Reply #142 on: May 07, 2018, 02:42:35 AM »
Semantics Xray of the upper chest correct? Supposedly there is one but I cannot find it


(8.) Anterior-posterior view of the right shoulder and right chest on 14 x 17" film bearing the X-ray number 21296.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=594&search=x-rays_1966#relPageId=2&tab=page


(9) Anterior-posterior film of the chest on 14 x 17" film bearing the X-ray number 21296.

(10) Anterior-posterior view of the left shoulder and left chest on 14 x 17" film bearing the X-ray number 21296.

(11) Anterior-posterior view of the abdomen and lower chest on 14 x 17" film bearing the X-ray number 21296.


https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=594&search=x-rays_1966#relPageId=3&tab=page



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Re: Autopsy proves SBT impossible
« Reply #143 on: May 07, 2018, 02:25:51 PM »
Could you elaborate on number one? You believe what Humes said or have you determined something else?
I believe what Humes' said: ie. in his testimony and his autopsy report.  In his testimony to the WC (2H361) he said:

Commander HUMES. .... Attempts to probe in the vicinity of this wound were unsuccessful without fear of making a false passage.
Mr. SPECTER. What do you mean by that, Doctor?
Commander HUMES. Well, the defect in the fascia was quite similar, which
is the first firm tissue over the muscle beneath the skin, was quite similar to
this. We were unable, however, to take probes and have them satisfactorily
fall through any definite path at this point.

In his autopsy report (CE387, 16H983) he said:

The other missile entered the right superior posterior thorax above the scapula and traversed the soft tissues of the supra-scapular and the supra-clavicular portions of the base of the right, side of the neck. This missile produced contusions of the right apical parietal pleura and of the apical portion of the right upper lobe of the lung. The missile contused the strap muscles of the right side of the neck, damaged the trachea and made its exit through the
anterior surface of the neck. As far as can be ascertained this missile struck no bony structures in its path through the body.

Offline Bernd Werner

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Re: Autopsy proves SBT impossible
« Reply #144 on: May 07, 2018, 09:15:45 PM »
James Young was a Navy doctor in 63


?Letter From James Young to Gerald Ford (Excerpted)

Dear President Ford,

I was active-duty Navy and assigned to the White House as White House Physician in 1963, when President Kennedy was assassinated?

Knowing that you were on the Warren Commission at that time, I am writing to you confidentially, to see if you have any knowledge about an issue which has puzzled me for years?

My particular problem is a description of what occurred at the autopsy. During the autopsy examination, Dr. Jim Humes, then the Chief of Pathology at Bethesda Naval Hospital, and two other pathologists stated that some pieces of President Kennedy?s skull bones were missing. In order to reconstruct the President?s head for burial, Dr. Humes wanted to find those pieces which were missing. Dr. Burkley and I requested two of our corpsmen who were assigned to our White House medical unit, to go to the Executive Office Building where the Secret Service had placed the ?Queen Mary,? the open convertible in which President Kennedy had been shot, for bone fragments.

Two of the corpsmen left and returned sometime later with three varying sized pieces of President Kennedy?s skull bones. In addition, they brought back in an envelope a spent misshapen bullet which they had found on the back floor of the ?Queen Mary? where they had found the pieces of skull bones. The bullet and pieces of skull were given to Dr. Jim Humes.

Red Herring noticed.

Autopsy proves SBT impossible ??

Not even close.

If one accepts that JFK's back wound was an entry wound and that no bullet was found in the body, it stands to reason that the bullet transversed his body and could have gone on to strike JBC. 

So, no, the autopsy doesn't prove the SBT impossible.

That's absolutely correct.

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I guess it's possible that somehow the bullet that entered JFK's back fell out and was never recovered, but that leaves the CTs another conundrum.

If the bullet that struck JFK in the back did not pass through his body and the throat wound is indeed an entrance wound, then where did the bullet that caused the throat wound go ?

This would be a good argument, if you didn't answer it right before: It fell out and was never recovered. ;)

Never mind all the other evidence that shows the theory is total nonsense.

But as this "evidence" doesn't exist ...

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No, remember, Humes probed the wound and could feel the end of it with his finger. THE BULLET DID NOT TRAVERSE THE BODY. How could this bullet have been a threat to JBC? Come on SBT folks, let's hear more nonsense explanations of this!

Do you understand the concept of "rigor mortis"?

Semantics Xray of the upper chest correct? Supposedly there is one but I cannot find it

I found it for you, it is picture No. 12:

http://www.jfklancer.com/photos/autopsy_slideshow/
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Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: Autopsy proves SBT impossible
« Reply #145 on: May 07, 2018, 10:43:50 PM »
Red Herring noticed.


This would be a good argument, if you didn't answer it right before: It fell out and was never recovered. ;)


 Thanks for the link  to the photograph Pleass explain the red herring comment

 

Offline Jim Brunsman

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Re: Autopsy proves SBT impossible
« Reply #146 on: May 07, 2018, 11:41:43 PM »
I guess I'm a "blowhard" because I stated my opinion based on many years of research on this case. Mr. Nickerson is wedded to an impossible theory and I can understand why his ego would be upset when the real evidence contradicts the moronic SBT. But you have to analyze all the evidence to arrive at this point. There was an obvious and bungled cover up that fooled quite a few people.

One question: Why is the Parkland evidence completely opposite the autopsy conclusions? Are you telling us that Clint Hill, and all the hospital staff were lying?