Things Ct's can do to prove a conspiracy.

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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Things Ct's can do to prove a conspiracy.
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2018, 07:02:38 AM »
There was no reason to have ever removed the scope mount in the 1st place. The so called 38" bag that was never photographed where it allegedly was found at the SN, was 8" width flat and 6" diameter.  The scope could have been left attached after barrel removed from stock and stil fit in that bag:



The reason to exclude the scope was because it was more than useless. It was in the way. Why include it when you know you aren't going to use it? Give Oswald some credit. The scope was never sighted in so he was either an expert marksman that kept a useless scope on the rifle and used the iron sights or he was a patsy that never even took a shot and the scope was left on the rifle to match the BYPs as part of his sheep-dipping. Since no one has duplicated this feat, I lean toward the latter.

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Re: Things Ct's can do to prove a conspiracy.
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2018, 07:15:21 AM »
Perhaps Oswald didn't know he was going to use the irons until after he fired the first shot while looking through the scope.

Come on. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Oswald knew the scope wasn't sighted in and therefore useless. In which case, why even take the 1st shot looking thru the scope? Damned impressive recovery, however, to bolt in the next 2 rounds and score twice after switching to the iron sights in 5 secs flat. Any honest military marksman would confirm that.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Things Ct's can do to prove a conspiracy.
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2018, 12:42:40 PM »
The reason to exclude the scope was because it was more than useless. It was in the way. Why include it when you know you aren't going to use it? Give Oswald some credit. The scope was never sighted in so he was either an expert marksman that kept a useless scope on the rifle and used the iron sights or he was a patsy that never even took a shot and the scope was left on the rifle to match the BYPs as part of his sheep-dipping. Since no one has duplicated this feat, I lean toward the latter.

No.

The scope was not in the way.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Things Ct's can do to prove a conspiracy.
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2018, 12:43:21 PM »
The reason to exclude the scope was because it was more than useless. It was in the way. Why include it when you know you aren't going to use it? Give Oswald some credit. The scope was never sighted in so he was either an expert marksman that kept a useless scope on the rifle and used the iron sights or he was a patsy that never even took a shot and the scope was left on the rifle to match the BYPs as part of his sheep-dipping. Since no one has duplicated this feat, I lean toward the latter.

The scope was never sighted in so he was either an expert marksman that kept a useless scope on the rifle and used the iron sights or he was a patsy that never even took a shot

The fact that the worthless scope was on the rifle is also an indication that Lee was set up....  That scope lent credence to the tale that was immediately broadcast that the arch villain Lee Harrrrrvey Osssssswald (Booooo Hisssss !) was crack shot with a high powered and highly accurate rifle that was equipped with a "telescopic Sight".   

We now know that the "telescopic sight" was nothing but a stage prop to trick us into accepting the tale that was being presented.   There are still many suckers who refuse to accept the FACT that they were duped, and the scope was used to sell them the lie......


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Things Ct's can do to prove a conspiracy.
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2018, 12:49:25 PM »
Perhaps Oswald didn't know he was going to use the irons until after he fired the first shot while looking through the scope.

Perhaps Oswald didn't know he was going to use the irons until after he fired the first shot while looking through the scope.

This statement reveals that the author is a ignoramus and a real dumbass......  Only someone with an impaired ability to reason would propose such a dumbass theory....

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Things Ct's can do to prove a conspiracy.
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2018, 01:35:14 PM »
Perhaps Oswald didn't know he was going to use the irons until after he fired the first shot while looking through the scope.

This statement reveals that the author is a ignoramus and a real dumbass......  Only someone with an impaired ability to reason would propose such a dumbass theory....

Don't simply state that I'm a dumbass.  Explain how so.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Things Ct's can do to prove a conspiracy.
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2018, 02:07:53 PM »
The reason to exclude the scope was because it was more than useless. It was in the way. Why include it when you know you aren't going to use it? Give Oswald some credit. The scope was never sighted in so he was either an expert marksman that kept a useless scope on the rifle and used the iron sights or he was a patsy that never even took a shot and the scope was left on the rifle to match the BYPs as part of his sheep-dipping. Since no one has duplicated this feat, I lean toward the latter.

How do you know the condition of the scope during the assassination?  You only know the condition after the fact.  The rifle had been placed between boxes by then.  Perhaps dropped there.  I also recall some indication that the scope had been removed to test for prints.  A bald face assertion that it was "useless" to Oswald is not very compelling.  Regardless, the totality of evidence confirms that Oswald's rifle was used to assassinate JFK.  The probabilities of something occurring (i.e. Oswald making the shot with this rifle) are rendered moot by the event happening.  We know it can be done because it was.  In fact, that is the best evidence that it was not impossible.  If you want to attribute the shots to luck or skill it matters not a whit.