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Is the Zapruder film a composite or an original?
James Dahl:
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on April 05, 2018, 11:24:09 PM ---That's an interesting trick. How would ballistics determine that it was Oswald?
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It can't, only where the shot came from. "The Shooter in the 6th floor of the Book Depository" if you prefer other than Oswald
Steve M. Galbraith:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on April 05, 2018, 07:29:08 PM --- Dino Brugioni says it was not the original he saw. He should know don't you think
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In my opinion, Brugioni did not see - and could not have seen -the original. The original was either still in Zapruder's safe or in Chicago (depending on when Brugioni saw his version). Zapruder sold the original and a first generation copy to Time/Life on Saturday morning, the day after the assassination. That original was then sent to the Time/Life offices in Chicago where they went to publishing stills/frames from it. The copy was sent to the office in New York. Two other first generation copies were given to the government on Friday, the day of the assassination.
So Brugioni likely either saw a copy that Zapruder gave the government or a copy of one of the two copies. But he couldn't, as I see it, have seen the original since it wasn't in the possession of the government. At least not during the time in question; which was, as I understand it, shortly after the assassination.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Steve M. Galbraith on April 05, 2018, 11:46:49 PM ---In my opinion, Brugioni did not - and could not have - see the original. The original was either still in Zapruder's safe or in Chicago (depending on when Brugioni saw his version). He sold the original and a first generation copy to Time/Life on Saturday morning. The original was then sent to the Time/Life offices in Chicago where they went to publishing stills/frames from it. Two first generation copies were given to the government on Friday, the day of the assassination.
So Brugioni likley either saw a copy or a copy of one of the copies. But he couldn't, as I see it, have seen the original since it wasn't in the possession of the government.
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The Point is, NPIC Image Expert Dino Brugioni said that the Zapruder Film he Examined on 11/23/63 was Different than the Current Zapruder Film.
Steve Barber:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on April 06, 2018, 01:50:15 AM --- The Point is, NPIC Image Expert Dino Brugioni said that the Zapruder Film he Examined on 11/23/63 was Different than the Current Zapruder Film.
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It's interesting how you conspiracy buffs all hate the CIA and think they killed President Kennedy, not to mention a slew of other accusations against them made over the years--but the minute a former CIA employee says something you just happen to accept the word of the former CIA employee who claims that there were "more frames" in the Zapruder film than what has been available over the years. Never mind the fact that Zaprider testified at the Clay Shaw trial while viewing his film that he identified it has his own film, or all other evidence that supports the film being authentic!
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Steve Barber on April 06, 2018, 01:33:33 PM ---It's interesting how you conspiracy buffs all hate the CIA and think they killed President Kennedy, not to mention a slew of other accusations against them made over the years--but the minute a former CIA employee says something you just happen to accept the word of the former CIA employee who claims that there were "more frames" in the Zapruder film than what has been available over the years. Never mind the fact that Zaprider testified at the Clay Shaw trial while viewing his film that he identified it has his own film, or all other evidence that supports the film being authentic!
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NPIC Image Expert Dino Brugioni examined Images. This is what he did for his entire career. He was Legendary in this regard as to his examining the Images taken of Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis, U2 Spy Plane Images, etc. He was Not whatever your idea of a cloak-n-dagger CIA Agent may be. You would never confuse Dino Brugioni with Tosh Plumlee. Well, maybe YOU would. And let's not minimize what Brugioni had to say concerning the film he viewed on 11/23/63 vs The Current Zapruder Film. Not only did he believe there were More frames on the 11/23/63 film, he believed he Examined/Viewed Differing Images on these 2 Films.
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