Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle

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Online John Mytton

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #126 on: January 18, 2018, 11:33:35 PM »




All this proves is that when they had the opportunity to tamper with the evidence against Oswald none of it was altered, which unfortunately for you has a devastating effect on your client, sorry about that. :'(



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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #127 on: January 19, 2018, 12:19:23 AM »
I don't need Helen Markham.  Oswald is a cop-killer; no need to rely on Markham at all.

No need to rely on the only person who witnessed the crime?

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Shells were found by Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis and turned over to law enforcement.  The chain of custody for these two shells is perfectly intact.  These shells are evidence.

Prove those shells were found at the crime scene.  Or even the same ones found by the Davises.

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  They were linked, through ballistics, to the revolver taken from Oswald to the exclusion of any other weapon in the world.

Prove that revolver was taken from Oswald.

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  Whether you like it or not, these shells would be used to convict Oswald.

That's easy for you to say.

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Unless, of course, you FINALLY have something to support your presumption that the shells aren't authentic.  Do you?

You can't demonstrate their provenance.  That's enough.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #128 on: January 19, 2018, 12:23:25 AM »
All this proves is that when they had the opportunity to tamper with the evidence against Oswald none of it was altered, which unfortunately for you has a devastating effect on your client, sorry about that. :'(

Dream on.  What it shows is that there's no good reason to think that the shells that Benavides handed to Poe were any of the C47-C50 shells.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #129 on: January 19, 2018, 08:10:17 AM »
Said by a guy who supports a theory with NO supporting evidence whatsoever. Why don't you require proof?

I need to prove your speculations? I don't think so...

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #130 on: January 19, 2018, 06:03:40 PM »
I need to prove your speculations? I don't think so...

No he's asking you why you don't require proof for what you believe.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #131 on: January 19, 2018, 06:55:27 PM »

All this proves is that when they had the opportunity to tamper with the evidence against Oswald none of it was altered, which unfortunately for you has a devastating effect on your client, sorry about that. :'(

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They didn't alter the cartridge cases Poe marked, they made them disappear.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #132 on: January 20, 2018, 02:19:57 AM »
No proof that he owned a rifle?  LOL.  There are pictures of Oswald holding it. 

Ignorance strikes again; apart from the problem that there is absolutely no conclusive evidence to support the claim that the rifle Oswald is holding in the photo is the same one that was ordered from Klein's or the one that was found at the TSBD, according to Richard Smith, being photographed holding a rifle means you own that rifle! Hilarious!

Documents that confirm that the same rifle found at his workplace was the one sent to him via a matching serial number.

There are no such documents.

His prints are on the rifle.

No there were not. The FBI didn't find any prints...... Only days later, Lt Day produced a card with one print on it which he claimed came from the rifle. That's the same guy who believed Frazier about the bag and came up with the silly theory that the heavy bag he had could have been concealed in the flimsy bag Frazier had seen Oswald carry.

It is difficult to understand how there could be any more evidence absent a time machine. 

No. It's difficult to understand how you could be so extremely gullible as you seem to be.....

Only days later, Lt Day produced a card with one print on it which he claimed came from the rifle.

This simply isn't true.....   The DPD turned over to the FBI that unidentifiable smudge that as later called Lee palm print at Midnight 11/22/63.