Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle

[Martin Weidmann]

So much nonsense it is hard to know where to start.  Oswald did not order this rifle intending to assassinate JFK.  He had no clue when he ordered the rifle that JFK would ever come to Dallas or that he would happen to be working in a building overlooking the motorcade.  He intended to use it to assassinate Walker.  He used an alias to do so.  Covering his tracks to the best of his ability.  He never intended the rifle to be found in his Walker scenario and it was not.  So it worked out fine in that instance.  He had no similar option in the JFK assassination to get away with the rifle.  He didn't just walk a couple of blocks to a bus.  He left within minutes.  Got a cab for the first time.  Not even pausing to ascertain what was going on.  Even after a police officer pulled a gun on him.  Oswald was in full flight murdering a police officer.  Flight doesn't mean he was running away in a panic as some CTers mistakenly suggest constitutes flight.  He was leaving the scene of a crime to avoid apprehension (i.e. flight).  No proof that he owned a rifle?  LOL.  There are pictures of Oswald holding it.  Documents that confirm that the same rifle found at his workplace was the one sent to him via a matching serial number.  His prints are on the rifle.  It is difficult to understand how there could be any more evidence absent a time machine.  What evidence do you believe we should have that we do not under that circumstances that would satisfy you of Oswald's ownership of the MC rifle?

No proof that he owned a rifle?  LOL.  There are pictures of Oswald holding it. 

Ignorance strikes again; apart from the problem that there is absolutely no conclusive evidence to support the claim that the rifle Oswald is holding in the photo is the same one that was ordered from Klein's or the one that was found at the TSBD, according to Richard Smith, being photographed holding a rifle means you own that rifle! Hilarious!

Documents that confirm that the same rifle found at his workplace was the one sent to him via a matching serial number.

There are no such documents.

His prints are on the rifle.

No there were not. The FBI didn't find any prints...... Only days later, Lt Day produced a card with one print on it which he claimed came from the rifle. That's the same guy who believed Frazier about the bag and came up with the silly theory that the heavy bag he had could have been concealed in the flimsy bag Frazier had seen Oswald carry.

It is difficult to understand how there could be any more evidence absent a time machine. 

No. It's difficult to understand how you could be so extremely gullible as you seem to be.....

[Richard Smith]

No proof that he owned a rifle?  LOL.  There are pictures of Oswald holding it. 

Ignorance strikes again; apart from the problem that there is absolutely no conclusive evidence to support the claim that the rifle Oswald is holding in the photo is the same one that was ordered from Klein's or the one that was found at the TSBD, according to Richard Smith, being photographed holding a rifle means you own that rifle! Hilarious!

Documents that confirm that the same rifle found at his workplace was the one sent to him via a matching serial number.

There are no such documents.

His prints are on the rifle.

No there were not. The FBI didn't find any prints...... Only days later, Lt Day produced a card with one print on it which he claimed came from the rifle. That's the same guy who believed Frazier about the bag and came up with the silly theory that the heavy bag he had could have been concealed in the flimsy bag Frazier had seen Oswald carry.

It is difficult to understand how there could be any more evidence absent a time machine. 

No. It's difficult to understand how you could be so extremely gullible as you seem to be.....

Answer a simple question and forget all your babbling.  What evidence would prove to your subjective loony satisfaction that Oswald owned the rifle found on the 6th floor if the current record does not do so?  Or are you basically arguing that it is not possible to ever prove such a thing?

[Martin Weidmann]

Answer a simple question and forget all your babbling.  What evidence would prove to your subjective loony satisfaction that Oswald owned the rifle found on the 6th floor if the current record does not do so?  Or are you basically arguing that it is not possible to ever prove such a thing?

Or are you basically arguing that it is not possible to ever prove such a thing?

No... but it would require better evidence than the Klein's crap we have in this case.

[David Von Pein]

Nothing illustrates the constant denial of CTers like this topic of "Oswald Owned The Rifle". And I see that nothing has changed here in 2018, with virtually all Internet CTers deciding to totally ignore the vast evidence (of varying types) that prove that Lee Oswald ORDERED, PAID FOR, RECEIVED, and POSSESSED Carcano Rifle No. C2766 in the calendar year of nineteen sixty-three.

For the ultimate in "Rifle Denial", check out my "Money Order" page here....

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1058.html#The-File-Locator-Number-On-The-Hidell-Money-Order


And for the ultimate in "SBT Denial"....

http://single-bullet-theory.blogspot.com/#Debating-The-SBT

[Martin Weidmann]

Nothing illustrates the constant denial of CTers like this topic of "Oswald Owned The Rifle". And I see that nothing has changed here in 2018, with virtually all Internet CTers deciding to totally ignore the vast evidence (of varying types) that prove that Lee Oswald ORDERED, PAID FOR, RECEIVED, and POSSESSED Carcano Rifle No. C2766 in the calendar year of nineteen sixty-three.

For the ultimate in "Rifle Denial", check out my "Money Order" page here....

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2015/10/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1058.html#The-File-Locator-Number-On-The-Hidell-Money-Order


And for the ultimate in "SBT Denial"....

http://single-bullet-theory.blogspot.com/#Debating-The-SBT

I asked you a straight forward question;

The C2766 Carcano rifle was positively mailed by Klein's Sporting Goods of Chicago to Lee Harvey Oswald's P.O. Box in Dallas. Waldman Exhibit No. 7 proves that fact.

Please explain in detail how Waldman 7 proves that the rifle was mailed to the P.O. Box?


So Oswald (aka "A. Hidell") definitely ordered that rifle. There is no REASONABLE doubt about that fact.

Even if true, what exactly would be the implication of such a purchase?

Instead of linking to your propaganda sites, why don't you simply try to answer the questions?

[David Von Pein]

Now you're just being silly, Martin. As if you can't even imagine what the "implication" would be of LHO's buying and owning the weapon that killed the President. A kindergartner knows the answer to that one (and the one about Waldman 7 too), but (incredibly) Martin Weidmann needs these simple things explained to him with an easel and a diagram. Geesh.

The CTers on this forum are sure snotty as all get out today. (Or is it just today?) No wonder I don't post here very often anymore.

[Walt Cakebread]

No proof that he owned a rifle?  LOL.  There are pictures of Oswald holding it. 

Ignorance strikes again; apart from the problem that there is absolutely no conclusive evidence to support the claim that the rifle Oswald is holding in the photo is the same one that was ordered from Klein's or the one that was found at the TSBD, according to Richard Smith, being photographed holding a rifle means you own that rifle! Hilarious!

Documents that confirm that the same rifle found at his workplace was the one sent to him via a matching serial number.

There are no such documents.

His prints are on the rifle.

No there were not. The FBI didn't find any prints...... Only days later, Lt Day produced a card with one print on it which he claimed came from the rifle. That's the same guy who believed Frazier about the bag and came up with the silly theory that the heavy bag he had could have been concealed in the flimsy bag Frazier had seen Oswald carry.

It is difficult to understand how there could be any more evidence absent a time machine. 

No. It's difficult to understand how you could be so extremely gullible as you seem to be.....

His prints are on the rifle.

No there were not. The FBI didn't find any prints......

The FACT that Lee's prints weren't all over that Carcano simply screams of a framing of Lee Oswald......

IF the TSBD carcano had been the same  rifle sent from Kleins and the same photo that is seen in Lee's hand in CE 133A and the De Morhebschildt copy then ther would have been documentaion that the rifle was Lee's and it would have been foolish and futile to wipe away any prints on the rifle.....BUT...the rifle HAD been wiped clean..... Only someone who was planting that rifle would have worried about any finger prints being on that rifle......