Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle

[Steve Thomas]

Was there ever any receipt for the ammo clip?

Steve Thomas

[Richard Smith]

Here is the best evidence so far that poor Richard doesn't actually read the posts he is replying to, because here he is replying (if that's what you can call it) to something I said to David von Pein. My question to him is actually in another thread!

What one can take away from David's and Richard's replies to my questions so far is that they both claim it is so extremely easy that anybody can understand yet both seem completely unable to actually provide a simple explanation....

I wonder why...... No wait, I don't wonder why. I know why. The honest answers to those questions scare the sh*t out of them!

So, here are the questions for both again;

For Richard;

For David;

Do you have some of type of head injury?  You appear to be really confused.  I responded to your question to David in this thread regarding the implications of Oswald buying a rifle as anyone can see from looking back to the first page of this thread.  Why you are crying about another thread is bizarre and unclear.  Instead of wasting our time with crazy nonsense like this how about tell us what evidence is lacking from the record that we should have but don't that would satisfy you that Oswald ordered this rifle?  Try to focus.   

[Walt Cakebread]

The Walker shooting was a hoax?

The bullet went through glass and wood and barely missed Walker?s head.

Question:

How did the shooter know that the glass and wood would not deflect the bullet enough from a near miss to a hit?

The Walker shooting was a hoax?

Yes.....The Walker incident was a hoax....  If you would extract your head then you might be able to see.....


The bullet went through glass and wood and barely missed Walker?s head.

You don't have a clue......  Question:  How high above the floor is the bullet hole in the photo of the wall?  The bullet exited the wall in the adjacent room behind a stack of books  ....How high is that bullet hole?.... Do you believe that Walker was crawling around on the floor at the time the bullet hit that wall?

Question:

How did the shooter know that the glass and wood would not deflect the bullet enough from a near miss to a hit?


Huh???   Can you ask the question in an intelligent manner ?

[Mark Ulrik]

The bullet went through glass and wood and barely missed Walker?s head.

You don't have a clue......  Question:  How high above the floor is the bullet hole in the photo of the wall?  The bullet exited the wall in the adjacent room behind a stack of books  ....How high is that bullet hole?.... Do you believe that Walker was crawling around on the floor at the time the bullet hit that wall?

Not sure about an actual measurement, but we have an estimate from Surrey's WC testimony.

Mr. JENNER. Now, that leads me to ask you this, Mr. Surrey: That bullet hole is how high from the floor? I am showing you now Commission Exhibit No. 1009.
Mr. SURREY. You mean how high is the hole----
Mr. JENNER. From the floor.
Mr. SURREY. From the floor? Well, the police went into the next room and so did I, and sighted through the hole in the wall to the window.
Mr. JENNER. Yes, sir.
Mr. SURREY. And when Walker sat down at his desk, it went right through his head.
Mr. JENNER. So he was seated on a chair substantially the height of the one you are seated on?
Mr. SURREY. Yes, and he is approximately a little taller than I am.
Mr. JENNER. He is a little taller than you are. So that would be about 4, 4 1/2 feet.

[Walt Cakebread]

Not sure about an actual measurement, but we have an estimate from Surrey's WC testimony.

Have you seen the photo??   It's definitely not four feet up from the floor.....

The bullet was fired from the top of a fence in the alley that was above (higher in elevation) than the  window sash, therefore it was traveling in a downward trajectory.  The window sash was about four feet up from the floor and the bullet would have been deflected DOWN by that sash ....

That bullet could only have come close to Walker's head  if he had been sitting on the floor.

[John Iacoletti]

The C2766 Carcano rifle was positively mailed by Klein's Sporting Goods of Chicago to Lee Harvey Oswald's P.O. Box in Dallas. Waldman Exhibit No. 7 proves that fact.

No it doesn't.  Waldman Exhibit No. 7 is an "order blank", not a shipping document.  And the microfilm from which that was allegedly printed is now "missing".  Darn the luck.

And the money order was stamped by Klein's. So Klein's was definitely PAID the $21.45 for the rifle (with William Waldman of Klein's verifying this fact in his WC testimony),

How do you know when it was stamped and by whom?  How did Waldman even know?

and Klein's did the processing on their end by depositing the "Hidell" money order into their bank account.

What is your evidence that the specific money order found in Virginia was deposited into Klein's bank account?

And that money order has Oswald's writing all over it.

"all over it".  LOL.  Even if it does, what connects this particular money order with Klein's order #270502 other than the amount?

So Oswald (aka "A. Hidell") definitely ordered that rifle. There is no REASONABLE doubt about that fact.

It has reasonable doubt "all over it".

[John Iacoletti]

He didn't just walk a couple of blocks to a bus.  He left within minutes.  Got a cab for the first time.  Not even pausing to ascertain what was going on.  Even after a police officer pulled a gun on him.  Oswald was in full flight murdering a police officer.  Flight doesn't mean he was running away in a panic as some CTers mistakenly suggest constitutes flight.  He was leaving the scene of a crime to avoid apprehension (i.e. flight).  No proof that he owned a rifle?  LOL.  There are pictures of Oswald holding it.  Documents that confirm that the same rifle found at his workplace was the one sent to him via a matching serial number.  His prints are on the rifle.  It is difficult to understand how there could be any more evidence absent a time machine.  What evidence do you believe we should have that we do not under that circumstances that would satisfy you of Oswald's ownership of the MC rifle?

So much nonsense it is hard to know where to start.  Only in Smith-land is taking a cab for the first time evidence of murder.  That goes right up there with leaving a wedding ring behind and not being chatty with the cab driver.

He was leaving the scene of a crime to avoid apprehension (i.e. flight).

And you know this, how?

No proof that he owned a rifle?  LOL.  There are pictures of Oswald holding it.

And you know this, how?

  Documents that confirm that the same rifle found at his workplace was the one sent to him via a matching serial number.

There are no documents that show this rifle was "sent to him".

  His prints are on the rifle.

You mean a partial palmprint attributed to him was found on an index card a week later.

  It is difficult to understand how there could be any more evidence absent a time machine.

It is difficult to understand why you think your hollow claims constitute evidence.