Prayer Woman

[Barry Pollard]

Luckily for me, up on the toes on just the one foot while leaning is not too jarring, in fact it's the most natural thing to do the further I lean.
Perhaps it makes no difference to what we see but the ball is in your court, you have a point to prove.

Wiegman says he's two steps down and only came down one, ie. not on the landing, are you going to go on record as not being able to see that?

[James Hackerott]

I have entered comment and graphics related to Lovelady in Wiegman & Altgens in the Photographic forum.
Where was Lovelady Standing in Wiegman and Altgens6?

[Barry Pollard]

Brian, remind yourself of the efforts made to find a shadow on anyone in any image, anywhere near the railing's west side(virtually nothing found).
Then remind yourself how close Altgens and that hIgh Lovelady frame is in time(he cannot have moved much).
Then remember what you told me, how the angle might be misleading me, when I myself said he looks close to the railing.

Now you have to be kidding, after all that you're still claiming he's close to the railing but now even worse, behind the end of it, for what!?  To support the "he's on the landing" claim that then proves PM is not Lee?
How will you prove that?  Certainly not with words.

[Alan Ford]

I can't offer you a good argument for this blob of pixels being anyone in particular at all.

No offence, John, but you're just being glib.
There was enough information in this blob of pixels to enable folk to correctly identify Buell Wesley Frazier:



Same went for Marrion Baker, Roy Truly and several others. No problem in principle with applying the same procedure to PP. As one leading researcher pointed out when the above frame first became available: "A sharp eye will detect a male receding hairline and side part of the hair." Fits LHO. Why not him, given that
a) his exact whereabouts at this time are not firmly established
b) he claimed to have been on the first floor at the time of the assassination
c) every other employee in the building has been ruled out?

It's quite amusing. When the above Darnell frame first appeared five years ago, several LNers rushed to identify PP as Billy Lovelady. When that didn't, uh, work out, they turned to dismissing PP as an unrecognisable bunch of pixels. Basically, anything but admit that it might be LHO! It stops being amusing, however, when Warren Report critics follow their lead.

Why do you assume that PP is necessarily a Depository employee?

Why wouldn't I?

Since you haven't offered an alternative candidate to LHO, are we take your question above as an admission that PP is either LHO or a non-employee?

[Alan Ford]

The above is the best way to look at it because BL is without doubt two steps lower than BWF.
In the looping Wiegman gif, Lovelady descends less than the height of his head, one step.
So I'm officially off the fence, I was already once before when I said there's no shadow on BL's head but that alone wasn't enough and I almost got back on it.
Cheers Alan.

 

[John Iacoletti]

No offence, John, but you're just being glib.
There was enough information in this blob of pixels to enable folk to correctly identify Buell Wesley Frazier:

I don't know if that's Frazier or not, but we do know from several people's statements that Frazier was on the front steps in that approximate position.  We know no such thing about Oswald.

Same went for Marrion Baker,

Really?  Baker was identified on the basis of being a cop running toward the building, not because it "looks like him".

As one leading researcher pointed out when the above frame first became available: "A sharp eye will detect a male receding hairline and side part of the hair."

That "sharp eye" is otherwise known as pareidolia and wishful thinking.

Fits LHO. Why not him, given that

There is a big gap between "why not him" and "it's him".

It's quite amusing. When the above Darnell frame first appeared five years ago, several LNers rushed to identify PP as Billy Lovelady. When that didn't, uh, work out, they turned to dismissing PP as an unrecognisable bunch of pixels.

I have said unrecognisable bunch of pixels from the beginning.

Why wouldn't I?

Uh, because there's no good reason to assume that it's an employee?

Since you haven't offered an alternative candidate to LHO, are we take your question above as an admission that PP is either LHO or a non-employee?

You know as well as I do that every other employee in the building has not been ruled out.  If that were true, then nobody would be suggesting that it's Sarah Stanton, right?

[Barry Pollard]

The same Altgens Lovelean in Wiegman, no assistance required.



Head seems a little straighter so he's probably coming out of it but that's it, it's still there, his left shoulder lowered.

Btw Brian, don't ever mention shadow on BL again until you abandon your new behind the top of railing theory.