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Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #546 on: July 08, 2018, 06:03:46 PM »
Friends, we MUST account for the variable amount of wall showing between Prayer Man's right elbow and the redbrick section!

The very short gap in WIEGMAN makes it impossible to put Prayer Man anywhere other than one step down:



But! The gap is markedly larger in DARNELL:



I don't believe this can be explained away simply by the slightly different POV between the two cameramen.

Seems to me the only credible explanation------------barring other credible suggestions! Thumb1:-------------is the following:

When Prayer Man in Wiegman moves his right hand up to his mouth, his right elbow is raised correspondingly:



Now if Prayer Man were to fold his arms, we would expect to see that right elbow higher than it was when he wasn't eating/drinking and slightly east of where it was when he was. And that's exactly what we do see in Darnell:



So I submit!:

-Prayer Man in Wiegman has his hands in the 'prayer' formation
-Prayer Man in Darnell has his arms folded.

No other solution seems to me to naturally allow Prayer Man to stay on the same step AND change so obviously the position of his right elbow!
I have to conclude that I see no, as in not any, as in none, as in zero, evidence to justify a conclusion that the doorway/entrance portal stairs/landing image(s) indicate that PrayerPersonImage is standing, partially or fully, on any stair/step lower than the landing atop the stairway.
Although I make no claim of film/photography expertise, there appears to be some angle and/or distance variation between separate images, as where the doorway images appear to be size similar, there appears to be a definite size difference between them, and that of the occupants on the street when viewing the 'comparison' similar scene film images.
I have to conclude, also, there now appears to be 'versions' of filmed/pictured similar scenes of the portal area relative to the PrayerPersonImage identity debate. And, 'versions' appear to have image(s) adjustment(s), as well as additional image(s) insertions, So, maybe time has come for film/photograph authentication if used to 'illustrate debatable evidence'.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #547 on: July 08, 2018, 06:20:54 PM »
If we accept that the Scarf Lady is wearing a rain coat what are the chances she is TSBD employee? Very, very low. Most of the TSBD employees left their working positions between 12:10-12:30 when the rain was well over and there was a nice sun so what are the chances TSBD employee would take her rain coat to go outside to watch the motorcade? Very, very low.
Scarf lady was a person who lived reasonably away from Dallas, who left her home early in the morning while it was raining or about to rain and that is why she had a rain coat. Same as people in Fort Worth, most of them had rain coats.
Once again, there are slim chances TSBD employee would take rain coat to go down and watch motorcade at noon. Same as you see many spectators in Dallas do not have rain coats because they lived close and did not have to leave their homes early in the morning while it was raining.

She's probably Virginia H. Barnum!  Thumb1:




Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #548 on: July 08, 2018, 06:34:52 PM »
Your persistent arrogance and unhealthy narcissistic self praise are not virtues to be admired, Brian.

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So far, and just like everyone else involved in studying Prayer Person here and elsewhere, you have proven absolutely nothing.

You're being too hard on Brian, Duncan-------he proved that Sarah Stanton is not Prayer Man, thus depriving the anti-PMers of their last little bit of wriggle-room!

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #549 on: July 08, 2018, 06:36:10 PM »
Although I make no claim of film/photography expertise, there appears to be some angle and/or distance variation between separate images, as where the doorway images appear to be size similar, there appears to be a definite size difference between them

SHOW us!  Thumb1:

Online Duncan MacRae

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #550 on: July 08, 2018, 06:42:34 PM »
Brilliantly put, Mr Walton!  Thumb1:

You really think so, Alan? :)

TIP: Research the post to which Michael refers before you reply.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #551 on: July 08, 2018, 06:44:29 PM »
You really think so, Alan? :)

TIP: Research the post to which Michael refers before you reply.

TIP: Research my full reply to Michael's post before you reply!  Thumb1:

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #552 on: July 08, 2018, 06:52:25 PM »
TIP: Research my full reply to Michael's post before you reply!  Thumb1:

TIP 2: Research TIP 1 again (you're missing Michael's blatant error) before you make your second reply.