Prayer Woman

[Michael Walton]

Alan, my copy and paste was because Tom Graves was too lazy to go back in this thread to find the image I was speaking of. So I copied and pasted it for him. If you don't like it, then do what we used to do back in the day of over-the-air television...turn the dial to change the channel.

Meanwhile, sounds like you're riled up since I know you think it's Oswald up there in the vestibule and you know I and others don't buy into it. Bad news, Alan - it's not him. The conspirators would not have their fall guy be standing up there moments after the shooting.  Otherwise, that'd make them the dumbest masterminds in the annals of crime.

But now that I know you're a CT-er, here's plenty of juicy reading for you that proves it wasn't LHO who killed Kennedy.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12g1i440geFDhf_vFKiHaEqyF1N-MUT2p/view

But even after you read the above, if you want to go back to believing it's Oswald up there as PM, then that's on you LOL

[Alan Ford]

Meanwhile, sounds like you're riled up since I know you think it's Oswald up there in the vestibule and you know I and others don't buy into it. Bad news, Alan - it's not him. The conspirators would not have their fall guy be standing up there moments after the shooting.  Otherwise, that'd make them the dumbest masterminds in the annals of crime.

Another nice evasion, Mr Walton! 

Let's try this yet again, shall we?

Why do you assume that Mr Oswald was being set up as the sixth-floor shooter rather than as------say------a conspirator who supplied the rifle?

Could it be that the reason you keep running away from this simple question is that... you can't come up with any answer to it? 

[Larry Trotter]

Alan, my copy and paste was because Tom Graves was too lazy to go back in this thread to find the image I was speaking of. So I copied and pasted it for him. If you don't like it, then do what we used to do back in the day of over-the-air television...turn the dial to change the channel.

Meanwhile, sounds like you're riled up since I know you think it's Oswald up there in the vestibule and you know I and others don't buy into it. Bad news, Alan - it's not him. The conspirators would not have their fall guy be standing up there moments after the shooting.  Otherwise, that'd make them the dumbest masterminds in the annals of crime.

But now that I know you're a CT-er, here's plenty of juicy reading for you that proves it wasn't LHO who killed Kennedy

https://drive.google.com/file/d/12g1i440geFDhf_vFKiHaEqyF1N-MUT2p/view

But even after you read the above, if you want to go back to believing it's Oswald up there as PM, then that's on you LOL

I suppose that what needs to be considered, and reconsidered, is that for the LeeHarveyOswald as PrayerManImage Theory to be factual, it requires the belief that LHO, arguably the most famous LoneGunmanAssassin in history, was actually filmed standing on the TexasSchoolBookDepository Building Elm St Mid-Level First Floor Main Entrance Landing at the top of the stairs, during the 12:30pm CST time frame of the Assassination of USP JohnKennedySr and CriticalWounding of TxG JohnConnallyJr.
Additionally, for the LHO as PMI Theory to be factual, it needs to be considered, and reconsidered, that he would have been among multiple eyewitnesses and co-workers at the TSBD Bldg, including his mentor, BuellWesleyFrazier, with whom he occasionally rode to and from work with to and from Irving, and yet not anyone of said eyewitnesses has ever testified to his presence on the Landing/Stairs during the shooting and/or filming at and/or about 12:30pm CST on 11/22/'63.

[Thomas Graves]

My question was:

Has anybody been able to independently arrive at/produce the same "Mary Tyler Moore-like" image that Davidson came up with by doing the same things that Davidson claimed to have done to "enhance the photo"?

Or is it a one-time "Cold Fusion" kinda thing, i.e. incapable of being recreated independently in a kinda "scientific" ... "experiment"?

[Thomas Graves]

Brian,

1)  Don't you find it amazing that the the man Calvery is speaking with in Couch-Darnell looks so much like Lovelady?

2)  Whose theory has more witnesses lying at least once about their actions and/or observations during, say, the beginning of Wiegman (sic) to, say, the spotting of Baker's helmet on the fifth floor (or, even better, when Lovelady was filmed while smoking a cigarette on the front steps several minutes later), ... yours or Kamp's?

For example, did Vicki Adam's prevaricate?  Shelley? Lovelady?  Truly?  Reid?   Please help me sort out the bad guys from the good guys, if you will.

Corollary question: Did the FBI and the DPD and the Secret Service lie about .. gasp ... absolutely everything that happened during that period of time, or must we / can we "cherry-pick" to get to The Truth?

-- Tommy

PS -- What does it really matter whether you or Kamp is right about Prayer Woman / Prayer Man, as long as most assassination students and "researchers" continue to fervently believe  that  the  "evil, evil, evil" Military Industrial Intelligence Community Complex killed JFK?

LOL

[Larry Trotter]

Brian,

Why is this "Prayer Man Was Oswald" vs. "Prayer Man Was Sarah Stanton" battle between you and Bart Kamp so important, anyway?

I mean, I mean, I mean, seriously ... Don't you BOTH believe that the "evil, evil, evil" CIA killed JFK?

(IMHO, KGB-boy Vladimir Putin loves you both.)

LOL

--  Tommy   

LarryTrotter replied:
With all due respect Mr Graves, reliable, provable, indicative evidence has been provided that justifies a conclusion that PrayerPersonImage represents a female then employed at the TSBD Bldg, Ms SarahDeanStanton. However, I will not research previously provided evidentiary information in order to provide direct links, but it should be fairly easily located.
That said, the question should be asked of those that claim PrayerPersonImage represents LeeHarveyOswald. Or, for that matter, any male with or without a camera.
There are multiple possibilities for eyewitness testimony placing LHO on the landing at the time, but yet there is no such eyewitness testimony.
And, it is my conclusion that the gender-neutral appearing PPI represents a person less than 5.5' tall, but otherwise somewhat larger than normal for an adult.
As stated, I base my PPI identity conclusion on reliable, provable, and indicative evidentiary information, but place no reliance on the DavidsonImageEnhancement.

[Michael Walton]

Another nice evasion, Mr Walton! 

Let's try this yet again, shall we?

Why do you assume that Mr Oswald was being set up as the sixth-floor shooter rather than as------say------a conspirator who supplied the rifle?

Could it be that the reason you keep running away from this simple question is that... you can't come up with any answer to it? 

My goodness, Alan.  Did you even bother to read the 173 pages in that link I posted? It's clear he was set up to take the fall. I don't know how many more ways to spin it for you.

So yes, there's too much evidence based on the book link and Accessories After the Fact that shows he was set up to take the fall.  But it does NOT mean he was ALSO up there in the vestibule as Kennedy's head was blown apart.

They would NOT have just let their fall guy roam around, risking being seen during the shooting.  And Frazier's testimony (also in the link) says he was talking to a female, or turned to one rather.

If you then reply to this with more blather, than I don't know what else to say to convince you otherwise.