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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #721 on: July 26, 2018, 07:35:40 PM »
Does he possess the balding patches?



Completely different lighting conditions, Chris.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #722 on: July 26, 2018, 07:38:40 PM »
Can you offer me a good argument, John, for PP being someone other than LHO?

I can't offer you a good argument for this blob of pixels being anyone in particular at all.

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Who, out of all the Depository employees known to have been at work that day, do you think might PP be?

Why do you assume that PP is necessarily a Depository employee?

Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #723 on: July 26, 2018, 07:54:03 PM »
Here's the problem, Alan.  There is no good argument for PP being LHO.  It's all based on a few people imagining that this blob of undifferentiated pixels "resembles" Oswald.

And by the way John, there has been evidence presented, including SarahStanton's family members' statement, identifying PrayerPersonImage as representing SarahStanton. And, known eyewitnesses gave statements/testimony as evidence of her presence on the landing as the motorcade passed the TSBD Building.
However, there is no eyewitness statement/testimony that indicates LeeOswald as being there at that time.

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #724 on: July 26, 2018, 09:01:29 PM »
Friends!

Here's a nice blend of Wiegman and Darnell that (if memory serves) Chris Davidson put together:



Look at Billy Lovelady. He is one step down from where he was in the earlier Wiegman frames.
Look at Buell Wesley Frazier. He's on the landing.


Now! Compare their heights. Can anyone seriously believe that the 5'8.5" Lovelady is here only one step down from the ~6' Frazier? Yet that is what those trying to put Lovelady on the landing in the earlier Wiegman frames would have you believe!
No way. No how!

The above is the best way to look at it because BL is without doubt two steps lower than BWF.
In the looping Wiegman gif, Lovelady descends less than the height of his head, one step.
So I'm officially off the fence, I was already once before when I said there's no shadow on BL's head but that alone wasn't enough and I almost got back on it.
Cheers Alan. 

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #725 on: July 26, 2018, 09:26:53 PM »
Altgens might be useful if you could replicate it accurately and prove your point Brian but that ship may have sailed if the steps have been refurbished, at this stage you can only guess, I myself cannot tell from Altgens alone and refer you back to what you just quouted.

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #726 on: July 26, 2018, 09:55:47 PM »
You cannot tell with one frame of Wiegamn alone, that's the problem Brian.
Stick with Altgens, you have a point but I would want to see it proven.
Two things to consider;
Lovelady is probably on the toes of his right foot.
He's also probably stood closer to the camera than we thought, not by the railing at all but halfway between it and the wall.

You don't need Dallas to prove this, just a set of steps with 7" risers. Go for it.

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #727 on: July 26, 2018, 10:00:57 PM »
RE: blob of pixels.
John, I've thought it looks a little like LHO but I've never had to use the pixels to do it.
That's what you need to see female features not male ones.
Blobs and pixels are what was shown to Stanton's family(allegedly).