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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #672 on: July 21, 2018, 09:16:41 PM »
I understand your point but you have to narrow the number of persons whose hand it might be. Three black ladies seen in Altgens 6, all were wearing bright dresses and there are low chances this to be hand one of them. Also, limo already passed by them so check the second photo how they are waving almost horizontally towards the limo.
If what you marked in red is really a waving hand this person was standing between three black ladies and Carl Edward Jones, closer to Jones and this person was waving to LBJ?



The Towner film gives a good sense of the crowd in the relevant area, Patrick, though we're unlikely to find the actual raised hand due to the fact that Towner is not focused on that area at the time of Altgens.

And yes, waving to LBJ (or someone else in the parade). Some people's attention followed JFK and Jackie after they'd passed, some others' went to whoever was passing next.
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #673 on: July 21, 2018, 09:28:09 PM »
The Towner film gives a good sense of the crowd in the relevant area, Patrick, though we're unlikely to find the actual raised hand due to the fact that Towner is not focused on that area at the time of Altgens.

And yes, waving to LBJ (or someone else in the parade). Some people's attention followed JFK and Jackie after they'd passed, some others' went to whoever was passing next.

All true but that hand still missing fingers. If that was a hand, we should see fingers or palm even if the person was black due to a strong Sun reflection.

In any case, wishing not to steal the topic, I think you are wrong. What you mark in RED is nothing else than left hand, I think Oswald left hand, others think it is Lovelady but low chances it is any other person hand.

Offline Michael Walton

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #674 on: July 22, 2018, 11:23:06 AM »
And I'll take this as confirmation that your continued refusal to post images-----or to offer a technical reason why you 'can't'------stems from your fear of having your absurd claims subjected to close scrutiny.  Thumb1:

By the way, Brian, Prayer Person is still not a woman. A sharp eye will detect a male receding hairline and side part of the hair.

Unfortunately, Allen, it's not Oswald neither. It doesn't make sense or goes against any logic that it'd be him up there, roaming around seconds after the car speeds away and in full view of cameras. After the planners had greased the screw for the past 6 months setting him up to be the patsy.

Remember, he's supposed to be up there by then jamming the gun between the boxes and making his great 4-story escape just in time to be found sipping a Coca-Cola (or Dr Pepper).

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #675 on: July 22, 2018, 11:40:42 AM »
Unfortunately, Allen, it's not Oswald neither. It doesn't make sense or goes against any logic that it'd be him up there, roaming around seconds after the car speeds away and in full view of cameras. After the planners had greased the screw for the past 6 months setting him up to be the patsy.

Remember, he's supposed to be up there by then jamming the gun between the boxes and making his great 4-story escape just in time to be found sipping a Coca-Cola (or Dr Pepper).

Michael, you've offered this weak argument several times already, and I've addressed it several times already. Why do you keep refusing to engage with my counter-argument?

For the----------what?----------fourth time:

We don't know that LHO was being set up, by those behind the assassination, as a lone nut shooter, or even as a shooter. They may have just wanted to set him up as an accomplice. If so, then the carcano will have taken care of that.

To fail to distinguish between the assassination conspiracy and the post-assassination cover-up is an elementary error.


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #676 on: July 22, 2018, 11:55:07 AM »
All true but that hand still missing fingers. If that was a hand, we should see fingers or palm even if the person was black due to a strong Sun reflection.

In any case, wishing not to steal the topic, I think you are wrong. What you mark in RED is nothing else than left hand, I think Oswald left hand, others think it is Lovelady but low chances it is any other person hand.

Zero chance that the man in the doorway in Altgens is LHO, Patrick. It's Lovelady. BUT! I believe that the FBI knew full well from LHO's first interrogation that LHO had been in the doorway at that time and were quite panicked by the Altgens photo.

Walter Cronkite showed the people of America the Altgens photo on live TV the evening of the assassination:



Offline Michael Walton

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #677 on: July 22, 2018, 11:59:18 AM »
Michael, you've offered this weak argument several times already, and I've addressed it several times already. Why do you keep refusing to engage with my counter-argument?

For the----------what?----------fourth time:

We don't know that LHO was being set up, by those behind the assassination, as a lone nut shooter, or even as a shooter. They may have just wanted to set him up as an accomplice. If so, then the carcano will have taken care of that.

To fail to distinguish between the assassination conspiracy and the post-assassination cover-up is an elementary error.

Try as you might, you cannot separate the two, Allen.  That doesn't make sense either.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #678 on: July 22, 2018, 12:05:23 PM »
Try as you might, you cannot separate the two, Allen.  That doesn't make sense either.

Why not?