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Offline Duncan MacRae

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #511 on: July 06, 2018, 06:14:05 PM »
Where's your clear photo of him wearing built up shoes, Duncan?
Ray,

Please link refer me to any post where I said he had high heels, low heels or no heels at all.

Like Alan, you are not reading my posts correctly.

No need to apologise when you can't provide a link.  :)

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #512 on: July 06, 2018, 07:26:32 PM »
 
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    OK but I just thought this guy is also about the same height and no I don't know when the clip was shot but say it was about 12:45...who can say?
    As far as Oswald's movements after he left the building...the official story is really silly.
    Probably really really silly is some almost 1200 posts trying to determine the identity of someone that is basically just a blob on film.
   
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Thanks for folding, Jerry, & good luck with your crucial, potentially case-breaking identification of a man whose back is to the camera! Thumb1:
And good luck with this gauntlet here that's consuming your life.
 
13:45PM perhaps but I doubt it's even 15m earlier
Based on??? Divination?

Why not see what the people that took and put together the clips said about the time?
 

 
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He was a 45-year-old owner of a grocery... His  film does not show the motorcade at all. But it shows various scenes taken several minutes after the shooting.

 
In front of the Depository. Firetruck and a white KRLD-TV car


Two officers on the 7th floor, That?s not the front of the Depository, but the East side of it.


Investigators discussing. One has a shotgun. Amateur photographer Jay Skaggs is on the left. He also took a photo of that scene.
https://jfkassassinationfiles.wordpress.com/


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Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #513 on: July 06, 2018, 07:34:33 PM »
Presented below is a link to the Affidavit In Fact, provided by DPD MotorcycleOfficer MarrionLewisBaker, on the afternoon of 11/22/'63, shortly after he responded to shots fired in DealeyPlaza that caused the death of US President JohnFitzgeraldKennedySr, and critical wounding of Tx Governor JohnBowden ConnallyJr, at about 12:30pm, CST.

OfficerBaker had been escorting the PresidentialMotorcade, and was several in line vehicles behind the PresidentialLimousine that had turned onto westbound Elm St just prior the shooting. And, as OfficerBaker was still northbound on Houston St as the shots were fired, and approaching the TexasSchoolBook Depository Building, he reacted to his belief that the shooter could very possibly be somewhere inside, or on the roof of said building.

After parking his motorcycle near the TSBD Elm St entrance, he rushed into the building, unaided by any other law officer(s), but followed by and directionally assisted by TSBD Bldg Superintendent RoySansomTruly.

When counting TSBD floor levels, worth consideration is the fact that the first floor entrance was mid-level, not ground level. Therefor, anyone not totally familiar with the actual floor levels could easily mis-count said levels, especially during his pursuit, unaided by other officers, of a possible shooter. And, especially, again, while providing a first day affidavit soon after the occurence.

For clarification, I maintain my conclusion that OfficerBaker provided a factual account of his experience, to the best of his ability.


https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337201/m1/1/

And, worth noting that by the time he reached the SecondFloorLunchRoom, DPD Officer MarrionBaker had already encountered three flights of stairs, and was approaching a fourth flight of stairs.
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #514 on: July 06, 2018, 08:55:10 PM »
 

In front of the Depository. Firetruck and a white KRLD-TV car

"we are going to send a Fire Department Rescue Unit with a lot of rope to that location" - DPD radio broadcast, 12:54pm.

Now forgive me, Jerry, while I return to the much more minor question of where LHO was at the time of the shooting that consumed the life of President Kennedy  Thumb1:

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #515 on: July 06, 2018, 08:56:52 PM »
Wouldn't any plan to frame the patsy include not allowing him to be seen on the steps...unless the shots were to come from there?
It boggles the mind these crazy theories get legs .
Give some CTs a fuzzy image and prepare for decades of climbing down rabbit holes.

Yep, he certainly has LHO's hairline!  Thumb1:


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #516 on: July 06, 2018, 11:27:22 PM »
Were there not "multiple" occupants of the entrance area?
Were there not "hundreds nearby" viewing the motorcade?
Are you saying that LeeOswald would have gone unnoticed while standing on the landing, by anyone?

Were there not "multiple" occupants of the entrance area after the assassination?
Were there not "hundreds" by the Texas School Book Depository?
Are you saying that LeeOswald would have gone unnoticed in the front lobby or while exiting the building, by anyone?

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #517 on: July 07, 2018, 02:05:20 AM »
  Based on??? Divination?

Why not see what the people that took and put together the clips said about the time?
 

Because I'd rather go with a researcher's opinion that's based on all the evidence available rather than someone's memory.
Also what Alan gave us, around 1PM, just for the mention of a firetruck coming their way seems to put that "several minutes after the shooting" to sleep, wouldn't you agree?
How long has the truck been there, how long would it stay there? Other evidence shows it on Houston with, IIRC, the crowds now tied off(A Murray or Allen still), was that before or after this footage?
What's the real source of that "several minutes after" quote anyway? Detectives would want to know, Trask is not perfect but his observation based opinions are often interesting.
Looks to me like the traffic down Elm has been diverted by this time, find out what time that happened and perhaps you'll get another clue.

No one is going to have Oswald there after 1PM but PM could be stil be hanging around, if it's not Lee.