Prayer Woman

[Alan Ford]

Has it been settled yet what may be the reason, if prayer person is Oswald, why he is about 9" lower than the 6'1" Buell W. Frazier?

Has anyone actually gone to Dealey Plaza, set up the same type camera and same location and get some 5'9" person to stand in some way to replicate pray persons image, so we do not have to rely on John Myttons computer perspective as the end all discussion conclusion?

Mr Mytton's computer mockup is a disaster, Mr Mason--------Prayer Man's arms are waaaaaaay too far from the front vertical column of the entranceway!

Prayer Man is a lot lower than Mr Frazier because at least one of his feet is one step down. 

[Barry Pollard]

Iacoletti,

Better minds that mine were speculating last year on this forum that that's Darnell in the Towner film, and that he was running towards the three "Darnell Women" on the pergola patio because he wanted to photograph them.

Maybe he heard Gloria Jeanne Holt crying in that three-woman group, and thought she'd be a dramatic subject?

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1303.0.html

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

That's it, v, v nice spot.
Darnell had a newspaper in his jacket pocket and it's seen in at least one image of him in CC3 or the RRY.

From Duncan's post in that thread.

[Thomas Graves]

That's it, v, v nice spot.
Darnell had a newspaper in his jacket pocket and it's seen in at least one image of him in CC3 or the RRY.

From Duncan's post in that thread.

Thanks, Barry.

I didn't know about the newspaper.

What does CC3 and RRY stand for?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

[Barry Pollard]

Minutes before on Main, JD on left, "newspaper" in same pocket as Towner.


CC = "Camera Car"(from Trask I think), RRY is The Railroad Yards
I thought they were universally understood sorry.

So as it stands, Holt is still extremely upset, around ten minutes after the attack, so either she learnt of something during those 10mins or she's still suffering from what we see @Z313?
She may have overheard Sitzman just for example, or a little of both.

[John Iacoletti]

It takes more to prove something than just repeating that you have proven it over and over again, ad nauseum. Especially when you blatantly lie about everything.

[Thomas Graves]

Minutes before on Main, JD on left, "newspaper" in same pocket as Towner.


CC = "Camera Car"(from Trask I think), RRY is The Railroad Yards
I thought they were universally understood sorry.

So as it stands, Holt is still extremely upset, around ten minutes after the attack, so either she learnt of something during those 10mins or she's still suffering from what we see @Z313?
She may have overheard Sitzman just for example, or a little of both.

Barry,

Thanks for that.

Good stuff.

Tangential question: Do we know the kind of 16 mm (?) movie camera Darnell was using that day, and the lens he would have shot the three gals on the Pergola Patio with?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

[Barry Pollard]

Barry,

Thanks for that.

Good stuff.

Tangential question: Do we know the kind of 16 mm (?) movie camera Darnell was using that day, and the lens he would have shot the three gals on the Pergola Patio with?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

Cheers Tommy, I could look it up if I still had Trask's mini door stopper but I gave it to a newbie, gratis of course.  Pictures of the Pain has some real goodies on the camera car's occupants. IIRC though, Darnell's contribution was a little light as indeed was his recognition for what he did/captured.