Prayer Woman

[Alan Ford]

Does seem a little strange. The line of questioning was cut off. Wonder why?

 

What had Mr Carr heard that made him ask such a leftfield question of Mrs Reid?

[Zeon Mason]

Zeon,

http://content.invisioncic.com/r16296/post-5057-0-39721100-1438148486_thumb.jpg

The arrow on the right is pointing to Roy Truly, the arrow on the left is pointing to a man some researchers and students used to believe was Truly until I discovered the real-deal Truly on the right.

I believe that is Ochus Campbell standing in front of him (i.e., in front of real-deal Roy Truly, on the right).

Are we "on the same page" regarding Campbell?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

YES!! Thats man on the Elm st. curb. Dark hat, dark suit. To his immediate left is presumablly Mrs Reid, an older (50+yrs) woman with the white scarf.

[Zeon Mason]

       Time Lining Any Eyewitness movements via the Wiegman Film is a Mistake. The Wiegman Film was cavalierly accepted by Old Guard JFK Assassination Researchers for 40+ years as having been filmed Continuously. Of course, this Continuous stuff is Total Baloney. You mention Wiegman, "WALK down towards the Newmans". The figure ID'd as Wiegman coming down the knoll on the Couch Film is Sprinting not walking. Wiegman claims: (1) he got out of his Camera Car Before the Kill Shot was fired, and (2) "felt Compression on my FACE" from the 3rd shot. If Wiegman jumped out of that car at the corner of Houston & Elm and Oswald was firing that Kill Shot shot from the TSBD 6th Floor downward toward the Stemmons Sign area, just how is Wiegman physically feeling the effect of that shot?. The only logical explanation for Wiegman feeling "compression" would be due to a shot being fired from a Lower Elevation than the TSBD 6th floor.

Thats a very interesting detail. It is  more verification of this time line of Weigman film running as he stepped off car, which is at the 15 sec mark in HIS film, is therefore reasonable plausible to conclude that at least he has heard A SHOT at that point, which is at least the 3rd shot heard. So if his camera is finally stopped after filming the Hesters at the Pergola structure, at 30 sec mark in his film,thats actually therefore 15 sec post last shot he "heard'.

There could have been a 4th shot, as Amos Euins heard, which is the one  Wiegman heard AS he was running towards the GK, and its that shot that caused the concussion force, on Wiegmans face, now FACING the GK, as he is running towards it.

The only other explanation would be a false association of perhaps a wind gust of 20-25mph hour which was occuring at random intervals that day, that struck Weigman, much the same as Baker says a gust almost made him lose control of his bike trying to turn it at only 7-10mph.

Either way though, Weigmans timeline is therefore stopping his camera finally at about 15 seconds from having jumped from his car, and hearing a shot, and this is when Couch also sees a rifle in the window, and his car only 60 ft from turning on Elm st. How does it take Couch 25 seconds more to respond, when his WC testimony implies he immediatley reached for his camera upon seeing the rilfle, and made a quick adjustment and then started filming. That does not take 25 seconds.

Plus, the car that Couch was in, along with Dillard and Jackson, was traveling approximately 15mph and if 60 ft to go to turn on Elm st as Couch said, since 15mph = 20 ft/sec approx, it would of only been about 3  seconds later, maybe 5 seconds tops, when the car has turned on Elm.

And how does it take Baker 24 seconds to travel 80 ft if he has increased speed up to 30 mph to get to the Elm st curb where he parks his bike. that would have only taken another 3 to 5 seconds also. What did Baker do upon stopping his bike? Sit on it for another 20 seconds or more? Had not Baker already made up his mind that the shots came from the roof of the TSBD when he saw the pigeons fly, and that was the REASON to have reved up the bike and accellerate to TSBD ASAP?? So why would Baker sit on his motorycle for another 20 seconds?

This is why I think the Couch film actually was started as early as 6 sec post Malcolm Couch seeing the rifle withdrawn, and starts just WHEN the car reaches and turns on Elm st, which would have only taken 3 to 5 seconds to travel that 60 ft distance at 15mph.

[Mark A. Oblazney]

Yeah, but since Oswald shot Kennedy, what is all this argle-bargle for?

[Thomas Graves]

Yeah, but since Oswald shot Kennedy, what is all this argle-bargle for?

Dear Mark,

Wow, believing in Prayer Woman is concomitant to believing that Lee Harvey Oswald dood da deed, an' all by him widdle self?

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy 

[Alan Ford]

Yeah, but since Oswald shot Kennedy, what is all this argle-bargle for?

Because it makes his feat of marksmanship all the more remarkable! 

[John Iacoletti]

"I recall that at the time of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Texas School Book Depository employees Mrs. Bonnie Richie, Mrs. Carolyn Arnold and Mrs. Jeraldean Reid were standing at my elbow and likewise witnessed the assassination."
 -- Ochus V. Campbell, in his 3/19/64 FBI statement

"At the time President John F. Kennedy was shot I was standing with Mr. [Ochus V.] Campbell in the street just in front of the building entrance."
-- Roy S. Truly, in his 3/19/64 FBI statement
.......

Iacoletti,

Have you been able to find Truly and Campbell in the Wiegman clip?

Jeraldean Reid (and Bonnie Richie and Carolyn Arnold) should be seen standing near them, if you can.

Why? Wiegman wasn?t taken at the time of the assassination.