Prayer Woman

[Royell Storing]

I think you can see a man who looks pretty much exactly like Mr Campbell, running as far as to the Stemmons freeway sign, in the Malcom Couch film at about 8 secs into the film, as Couch pans away from where Mrs Reid is standing with other women.

That puts Mr. Campbell approximately 100 ft away from where he was standing on the curb with Mrs Reid as seen in the Wiegman film.

But then one has to wonder how Couch film could have caught Mr. Campbell doing this at 32 seconds post shots, when Mr. Campbell AND Mrs Reid both suggest as parting occured AT the 3rd shot fired. So if Mr Campbell began running towards the Stemmons freeway sign 1 or 2 seconds post last shot fired, he cwould have run 100 ft EASILY by 15 secs. NOT 32 secs.

So something is off on the Couch film supposedly starting at 24 sec post shots. To have capture Weigman turning around at 15 sec post shot and Campbell running by Stemmons sign at 15 secs post last shot, and this seen at the 8 sec mark in Couch film would defacto require Couch film to have begone at 7 seconds post last shot.

If Couch really caught Baker running past, why didnt Couch mention this in his WC testimony. Couch only refers to the getting a CLOSEUP of an officer with gun drawn. Thats NOT Baker. That  closeup of a cop is when Couch cuts and restarts his camera as they travel down Elm st and the officer is seen to left of the car as they go past him.

So this puts into the question since, Mrs Reid has DISSAPPEARED in the Darnell film, but is apparently being caught at 24 seconds post shots by Couch film and Baker running past, HOW is this possible? A couple of other people seem to vanish also, in the overlapp comparison of Couch and Darnell, and this suggests one of the films is later than the other.

Then one has to question if there is any way possible that the Couch film is a composite film of Darnell catching Baker running at 24 sec post shots, overlayed with Couch film that actually began at 5 to 7 seconds post shots.

This would make it SEEM like Mrs Reid was there when Baker ran past, while in fact, Mrs Reid could have left at about 10 sec post shots, she being completely 180 turned around and facing TSBD just before Couch film pans away about 5 sec into Couch film.

One has to wonder why Mrs Reid also has NO mention of Baker almost running right thru her. Neither Couch nor Reid, nor any other of those women whom apparently Baker is running thru made any mention of seeing a DPD officer running thru them.

Very curious.

       Assigning timelines to JFK Assassination witnesses based on the currently accepted timelines of assassination films/images is a Huge Mistake. Especially when the Wiegman Film is involved. For roughly 40 years it was merely accepted/rubber stamped that Wiegman shot his film Continuously. Today, we Know that is Total BS. As Wiegman was running around the knoll, he claimed in Trask's "Pictures Of The Pain" that he saw SA Lem Johns UP on the knoll. Somehow, the image of SA Lem Johns avoided being captured Anywhere on the Wiegman Film. As long as this Black Hole remains in the Wiegman Film, using it to timeline anything or anybody immediately after the assassination will result in the absolute confusion lamented above.   

[Royell Storing]

    My personal opinion based on 40 years of listening to the Ever Morphing Story promoted by Buell Frazier = his Not being a Reliable Witness. I believe Frazier is sincere about whatever he might be saying, but  as used to be said regarding individuals such as this, "Nobody's home".

[Alan Ford]

    As I said, Frazier's story has consistently changed over the last 40+ years. Relying on someone that after 40+ years Suddenly starts telling everyone he was going to deck Fritz is Not where you want to go.

Mr Storing, I think that's too sweeping a statement. Mr Frazier's story has not "consistently changed". Many key elements have remained invariable.

Such as----------for instance-----------CE-142 being too long to be the bag Mr Oswald brought to work the morning of 11/22/63.

And----------for another instance------------his placing of Ms Stanton to his left at the top of the front entrance!

 

[Alan Ford]

"And I turned to Sarah..."

Context!

[Royell Storing]

            Yeah, give it another year and Buell will recall being in the TSBD Domino Room on the morning of the assassination and giving Oswald a "hot foot" during break time. How could a guy for roughly 50 years make absolutely No Mention of almost Decking the Capt of Homicide/Will Fritz on the very day of the assassination?  Frazier is Not a Reliable source.

[Alan Ford]

            Yeah, give it another year and Buell will recall being in the TSBD Domino Room on the morning of the assassination and giving Oswald a "hot foot" during break time. How could a guy for roughly 50 years make absolutely No Mention of almost Decking the Capt of Homicide/Will Fritz on the very day of the assassination?  Frazier is Not a Reliable source.

Again, your thinking here is too black-and-white, Mr Storing---------Mr Frazier is not Jean Hill! 

[Walt Cakebread]

Mr Storing, I think that's too sweeping a statement. Mr Frazier's story has not "consistently changed". Many key elements have remained invariable.

Such as----------for instance-----------CE-142 being too long to be the bag Mr Oswald brought to work the morning of 11/22/63.

And----------for another instance------------his placing of Ms Stanton to his left at the top of the front entrance!

 

Q: Where did you watch the parade from, what location?
A: I watched the parade from the top of the steps there, the main entrance into Texas School Books.
Q: Let me impose on you one more time and ask you to leave the witness chair and come down here and point out where you viewed the parade from. Would you do that, please?
A: Right here. It is the main entrance right here. There in the shadows you have several steps and a rail, and I was standing right there at the top of the rail.
Q: Referring you to an exhibit which has been marked for the purposes of identification as State-36, can you see the Texas School Book Depository in this exhibit?
A: Yes, sir, the Texas School Book Depository would be there.
Q: Can you see in this exhibit where you parked that morning?
A: No, sir, I cannot, because like I told you a while ago --
THE COURT: We can't hear you.
THE WITNESS: No, sir, I cannot.
BY MR. ALCOCK:
Q: Can you see the spot where you were situated when the presidential motorcade came by?
A: Yes, sir, I can.
Q: Will you take this symbol and place it at that location where you were standing?
A: (The witness complies.)
Q: Mr. Frazier, do you recall who you were with during the presidential motorcade?
A: Yes, sir, I can. When I was standing there at the top of the stairs I was standing there by a heavyset lady who worked up in our office, her name is Sara, I forget her last name, but she was standing right there beside me when we watched the motorcade.
Q: Do you recall anyone else who may have been with you?
A: Right down in front of me at the bottom of the steps my foreman Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady were standing there.