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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1141 on: February 16, 2019, 04:40:13 PM »
Friends, the reason the Lone Nutters here and elsewhere are performing so wretchedly in their response to the Hosty note revelation is that, for the first time since the Warren Report publication, Mr Oswald is getting a chance to tell his side of the story. This has pulled the last sad piece of threadbare rug from under the Lone Nutters' feet.

For decades the question, Where was Lee Harvey Oswald when the President was shot?, was met with Clear Single Warren Answer vs. Diverse Circumstantial Anti-Warren Answers

Now it has come down to a straightforward contention between Claim A vs Claim B:
-------------'Oswald was at the southeast window on the 6th floor firing'
-------------'Oswald was out front watching the motorcade'

To say that the dumb money is on Claim A doesn't even begin to do justice to the disaster that has just befallen the Warrenistas.
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1142 on: February 16, 2019, 06:15:24 PM »
Friends, the reason the Lone Nutters here and elsewhere are performing so wretchedly in their response to the Hosty note revelation is that, for the first time since the Warren Report publication, Mr Oswald is getting a chance to tell his side of the story. This has pulled the last sad piece of threadbare rug from under the Lone Nutters' feet.

For decades the question, Where was Lee Harvey Oswald when the President was shot?, was met with Clear Single Warren Answer vs. Diverse Circumstantial Anti-Warren Answers

Now it has come down to a straightforward contention between Claim A vs Claim B:
-------------'Oswald was at the southeast window on the 6th floor firing'
-------------'Oswald was out front watching the motorcade'

To say that the dumb money is on Claim A doesn't even begin to do justice to the disaster that has just befallen the Warrenistas.

Meanwhile!

Where does this Hosty note leave the Anti-Warrenistas?

They split now into two groups: those who believe that Mr Oswald lied about his whereabouts, and those who believe he told the truth.

All those Warren Critics who, up to this, have been too devotedly wedded to the official lunchroom story to even entertain the notion that Mr Oswald was out front have been able since 2013 to disparage or ignore Prayer Man as a fringe theory with no more intrinsic merit than the LHO-In-Altgens garbage of yore.

Well, this Hosty note boots them out of their smug zone. If they wish to continue to defend the lunchroom hoax, they must now say that Mr Oswald lied not just about his whereabouts during the motorcade but also about the timing of his visit to the lunchroom.

And if they wish to say that, they must kindly explain to the rest of us why Mr Oswald would have told these specific lies.

Alternatively, they could just accept this latest piece of evidence in good faith and draw the obvious conclusion: the unaccounted-for figure on the west side of the Depository entrance can only be Mr Oswald.
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Online Royell Storing

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1143 on: February 16, 2019, 06:30:00 PM »
Meanwhile!

Where does this Hosty note leave the Anti-Warrenistas?

They split now into two groups: those who believe that Mr Oswald lied about his whereabouts, and those who believe he told the truth.

All those Warren Critics who, up to this, have been too devotedly wedded to the official lunchroom story to even entertain the notion that Mr Oswald was out front have been able since 2013 to disparage or ignore Prayer Man as a fringe theory with no more intrinsic merit than the LHO-In-Altgens garbage of yore.

Well, this Hosty note boots them out of their smug zone. If they wish to continue to defend the lunchroom hoax, they must now say that Mr Oswald lied not just about his whereabouts during the motorcade but also about the timing of his visit to the lunchroom.

And if they wish to say that, they must kindly explain to the rest of us why Mr Oswald would have told these specific lies.

Alternatively, they could just accept this latest piece of evidence in good faith and draw the obvious conclusion: the unaccounted-for figure on the west side of the Depository entrance can only be Mr Oswald.
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       Believing the Officer Baker/Oswald lunch room encounter was Bogus, does Not then immediately place Oswald on-the-steps of the TSBD.  Sure, it does place Oswald somewhere else, but that "somewhere else" is Not mandated to be The Steps.
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1144 on: February 16, 2019, 06:34:57 PM »
       Believing the Officer Baker/Oswald lunch room encounter was Bogus, does Not then immediately place Oswald on-the-steps of the TSBD.  Sure, it does place Oswald somewhere else, but that "somewhere else" is Not mandated to be The Steps.

This might have been a valid argument before the Hosty note was revealed!

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1145 on: February 16, 2019, 06:40:28 PM »
This might have been a valid argument before the Hosty note was revealed!

     I read the Hosty note as posted over at Denis's and did Not see it as The Steps Slam Dunk that some of you do. I did regard that Note as being New Evidence, (to me anyway), and strengthening your position.

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1146 on: February 16, 2019, 08:41:26 PM »
     I read the Hosty note as posted over at Denis's and did Not see it as The Steps Slam Dunk that some of you do. I did regard that Note as being New Evidence, (to me anyway), and strengthening your position.

Oh but it doesn't just strengthen our position, Mr Storing, it was predicted by it!

It is a matter of record that, long before the note's becoming known, the Prayer Man advocates had already inferred its precise contents from the evidence:
------------Mr Oswald told Fritz he visited the 2nd fl lunchroom before not after the shooting
------------Mr Oswald told Fritz he went out front to watch the motorcade.

These inferences didn't come from nowhere. They came from meticulous cross-examination of the official narrative of Mr Oswald's movements in those all-important minutes------the very same cross-examination that yielded the Prayer Man theory.

Not a 'Steps Slam Dunk'? Only one place satisfies the criteria of 'outside' (Hosty note) and 'in the building' (to TV reporter)---------the front entranceway. (Is anyone seriously going to argue that Mr Oswald told Captain Fritz he watched the motorcade from out on the street?)

If Mr Oswald was lying about this and about his visit to the 2nd fl lunchroom, why did Captain Fritz and co. feel the need to lie about his lies? Why were the FBI so worried by the Altgens photograph? Why did DPD tell the press in the hours after the tragedy that, immediately after the assassination, Mr Oswald was challenged by a police officer who was rushing into the building's front entrance?

And-----------why has no one come close to offering a viable counter-candidate for Prayer Man?

Sounds like a slam dunk to me!

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Offline Larry Trotter

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1147 on: February 17, 2019, 06:51:14 PM »
Why is it important to find out who the prayer person is?

Perhaps a question that should be directed to the Person and Supporters that claim that the PrayerPersonImage represents arguably the most famous accused LoneGunmanAssassin in history, aka LeeHarveyOswald, who would have not been recognized by Co-worker BuellWesleyFrazier, who was standing about 2 feet away, that he rode to work with from Irving, TX, that very morning.      ???                                                                                                       

And, there were numerous other eyewitnesses as well on the landing/stairs during lunchtime viewing the Motorcade, that although being able to recall various other area occupants nearby, not one confirmed LeeHarveyOswald's presence anywhere on the landing/stairs at the time.         ::)

Also, perhaps another question can address the reasoning as to why said Person and Supporters decided to make said claim some 50 years, one-half century, after the Assassination of JFK.
                                     
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