Prayer Woman

[Thomas Graves]

Mr. BALL. How many shots did you hear?
Mr. ARCE. Three
Mr. BALL. Did you look back at the building?
Mr. ARCE. No, I didn't think they came from there. I just looked directly to the railroad tracks and all the people started running up there and I just ran along with them.
Mr. BALL. Did you go up to the railroad tracks?
Mr. ARCE. Yeah.

The man whom 'Billy Lovelady' walks past in the Couch film is not Bill Shelley but Danny Arce!

Alan,

That makes sense.

So, I wonder where Shelley was?

Stashing a rifle on the sixth floor?

-- Tommy 

[Alan Ford]

There is no interaction whatsoever between Mr Danny Arce and the running woman!

[Thomas Graves]

I fail to comprehend any valid reasoning for concluding that DannyArce is the PersonImage seen on film walking west/southwest on the Old Elm St extension parking area access road. The reliable evidentiary information indicates that WilliamShelleyImage is walking with BillyLoveladyImage and going west/southwest on the Old Elm St extension. 

Larry,

How about the fact that Danny Arce testified that he walked down Elm Street Extension to the parking lot / railway yard right after the final shot, and that he was wearing a dark jacket and had dark hair, etc?

Worthless testimony?

"He's a conspirator"?

?

-- Tommy 

[Alan Ford]

Larry,

How about the fact that Danny Arce testified that he walked down Elm Street Extension to the parking lot / railway yard right after the final shot, and that he was wearing a dark jacket and had dark hair, etc?

Worthless testimony?

"He's a conspirator"?

?

-- Tommy 

 

[Larry Trotter]

I fail to comprehend any valid reasoning for concluding that DannyArce is the PersonImage seen on film walking west/southwest on the Old Elm St extension parking area access road. The reliable evidentiary information indicates that WilliamShelleyImage is walking with BillyLoveladyImage and going west/southwest on the Old Elm St extension. 

Larry,

How about the fact that Danny Arce testified that he walked down Elm Street Extension to the parking lot / railway yard right after the final shot, and that he was wearing a dark jacket and had dark hair, etc?

Worthless testimony?

"He's a conspirator"?

?

-- Tommy 

Tommy:
Actually I was not aware of the specific DannyArce testimony as stated in your reference relative to his walking down the Elm St Extension. Does his statement/testimony indicate that he was with/near BillyLovelady during said walk?
In any event, I thought the as seen DannyArceImage was wearing a long coat, instead of a jacket. And, as well, if not WilliamShelleyImage near BillyLoveladyImage on the Old Elm St extension, is there any reliable indicative information relative to where MrShelley may have been?

In any event, I believe DannyArce said:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/arce.htm

[Anthony Clayden]

Brian,

With both the ease of which images can be manipulated and the possibility that the face is just a artefact of data manipulation on a poor image, many will remain scepitical of any definite naming of "prayer person". If you want to end this then may I suggest....

Either 1 arrange for a better clearer copy of the films/images OR

Arrange for Davidson's method and frame chosen to be published and replicated by others, furthermore follow the same process on other frames and see if a similiar result is obtained.

[Larry Trotter]

That's not really necessary, Brian.

All any truly open-minded "researcher" has to do is go to the JFK Assassination Debate - Education Forum and look up the work I did on Thierry "Fake News" Speth's, Don Roberdeau's, and Robin Unger's misidentified Gloria Calvery (sic), Karan Hicks, and Carol Reed (in reality Native-American Stella Mae Jacob, Gloria Holt, and Sharron Simmons -- all three of which were unfortunately mis-placed on the other side of Elm Street in their statements to the FBI), and then see how Sandy and I went about identifying tall and largish Gloria Calvery in Zapruder, Betzner 3, and Darnell.

Then, if they'll watch Wesley Buell Frazier's 2013 Sixth Floor Museum interview (starting at around 33:57), bingo, they have everything they need to know about Prayer Man's actually being a Prayer Woman -- Sarah Stanton.

-- Tommy 

Tommy,

As I recall, said research was of assistance for my conclusions of identity as well, and although some time back, it is still seemingly ignored with the same identity mistakes continuing to be referenced.

As an added note, it appears to me that any open-minded "researcher" would have already concluded that PrayerPersonImage represents SarahStanton.