Buell Wesley Frazier

Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: Buell Wesley Frazier  (Read 519568 times)

Offline Michael Capasse

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 791
Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #763 on: March 17, 2025, 02:45:34 AM »
The "Walker Note" has nothing to do with the Walker shooting. So what is it?
If the note was written by Lee around the time of the Walker shooting, he wrote because he's going to New Orleans.
He's going one month ahead of Marina, to find work and will send for her when when he is employed.
She was less then one year in the country, claimed to not speak English (although, Marguerite knew different- https://jfk.boards.net/post/2278)
He's helping her get along while he's gone. That's it. There is a BS spin put on the document about "being taken prisoner".

I still don't understand how that relates to Walker. Specifically to Walker. Anyone would be a fool to think he flipped his wig to
then go and kill Walker, "...and here is what you will need to do while I'm gone" That's ridiculous. There no evidence of that.
Be Lee. The note is written in Russian. As he wrote the note, he may have not known the Russian word for "being arrested".
He used the only wording he knew she would understand. "And if I'm arrested, you can contact local police". He may even be describing a location in N.O.

11. If I am alive and taken prisoner, the city jail is located at the end of the bridge through which we always passed on going
to the city (right in the beginning of the city after crossing the bridge).


There is no date. No mention of Walker whatsoever. If he wrote it, he left her instructions to get along while he's gone. That's it.
There is NO reason to believe that note had anything to do with the Walker shooting.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2025, 02:51:47 AM by Michael Capasse »

Online John Mytton

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5139
Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #764 on: March 17, 2025, 03:28:21 AM »
The "Walker Note" has nothing to do with the Walker shooting. So what is it?
If the note was written by Lee around the time of the Walker shooting, he wrote because he's going to New Orleans.
He's going one month ahead of Marina, to find work and will send for her when when he is employed.
She was less then one year in the country, claimed to not speak English (although, Marguerite knew different- https://jfk.boards.net/post/2278)
He's helping her get along while he's gone. That's it. There is a BS spin put on the document about "being taken prisoner".

I still don't understand how that relates to Walker. Specifically to Walker. Anyone would be a fool to think he flipped his wig to
then go and kill Walker, "...and here is what you will need to do while I'm gone" That's ridiculous. There no evidence of that.
Be Lee. The note is written in Russian. As he wrote the note, he may have not known the Russian word for "being arrested".
He used the only wording he knew she would understand. "And if I'm arrested, you can contact local police". He may even be describing a location in N.O.

11. If I am alive and taken prisoner, the city jail is located at the end of the bridge through which we always passed on going
to the city (right in the beginning of the city after crossing the bridge).


There is no date. No mention of Walker whatsoever. If he wrote it, he left her instructions to get along while he's gone. That's it.
There is NO reason to believe that note had anything to do with the Walker shooting.

WOW!

Point 11 goes way beyond just being taken prisoner, he says "If I am Alive", how the heck do you believe that in just going to New Orleans, Oswald potentially believed that he could be killed?

BTW the way you suggest that "if I'm arrested" means Oswald was planning to be arrested means you are starting to get it!
 
JohnM
« Last Edit: March 17, 2025, 03:43:20 AM by John Mytton »

Online John Mytton

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5139
Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #765 on: March 17, 2025, 04:25:49 AM »
11) If I am alive and taken prisoner, the city jail is located at the end of the bridge through which we always passed on going to the city (right in the beginning of the city after crossing the bridge)

In the following paragraph is the WC describing the journey from Neely street to the county jail at the beginning of the city.

Oswald had apparently mistaken the county jail for the city jail. From Neely Street the Oswalds would have traveled downtown on the Beckley bus, across the Commerce Street viaduct and into downtown Dallas through the Triple Underpass.713 Either the viaduct or the underpass might have been the "bridge" mentioned in the last paragraph of the note. The county jail is at the corner of Houston and Main Streets "right in the beginning of the city" after one travels through the underpass.
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html#walker

And here using Google Earth we can see in the 1st image the approximate journey from 214 Neely to the Commerce street Viaduct then in the 2nd we see the journey from the Commerce street Viaduct through to the triple underpass then onto the County Jail at the beginning of the city!
BTW for fun I have the bus going past the TSBD which I guess is unlikely because it would probably go straight down Main? I did a google maps public transport journey which is obviously more than half a century later and it took me all the way into Dallas via Commerce street? Anyway, you get the general idea. Thumb1:




JohnM
« Last Edit: March 17, 2025, 06:03:24 AM by John Mytton »

Offline Tom Sorensen

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 134
Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #766 on: March 17, 2025, 06:50:57 AM »
So you can't provide even a single example of Marina lying despite dismissing her testimony as the product of a liar.  And now Oswald is a "gun collector."  HA HA HA.  How many such collectors have a total of one rifle? A cheap WWII rifle.  And you can't demonstrate that Oswald could not have bought the ammo from a gun story in Dallas.  Got it.

So you can't provide even a single example of Marina lying despite dismissing her testimony as the product of a liar.  

Already covered. Realized that I didn't need Redlich, and you would use it as an avenue of escape; I slammed the door right in your face. Meanwhile, Michael provided a comprehensive list. Oh dear! 

And now Oswald is a "gun collector." 

I claimed no such thing. I answered the question you asked, no more, no less.

HA HA HA.

Reminds me of the DeM backyard print. Great shot, and it perfectly explains why Oswald didn't need ammo. Lee for sure had a great sense of humor. 

How many such collectors have a total of one rifle?

Aspiring collector. Would that work for you?

A cheap WWII rifle. 

You have to start somewhere. All sorts of interesting Carcano variants to collect. Great opportunity to get into the hobby. 

And you can't demonstrate that Oswald could not have bought the ammo from a gun story in Dallas. 

Richard, are you not paying attention? I'm not obligated to prove a negative.

Got it.

All you've got so far is this: It was rumored that Oswald practiced his rifle at Love Field. 

Offline Michael Capasse

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 791
Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #767 on: March 17, 2025, 11:11:52 AM »
11) If I am alive and taken prisoner, the city jail is located at the end of the bridge through which we always passed on going to the city (right in the beginning of the city after crossing the bridge)

In the following paragraph is the WC describing the journey from Neely street to the county jail at the beginning of the city.

Oswald had apparently mistaken the county jail for the city jail. From Neely Street the Oswalds would have traveled downtown on the Beckley bus, across the Commerce Street viaduct and into downtown Dallas through the Triple Underpass.713 Either the viaduct or the underpass might have been the "bridge" mentioned in the last paragraph of the note. The county jail is at the corner of Houston and Main Streets "right in the beginning of the city" after one travels through the underpass.
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html#walker

And here using Google Earth we can see in the 1st image the approximate journey from 214 Neely to the Commerce street Viaduct then in the 2nd we see the journey from the Commerce street Viaduct through to the triple underpass then onto the County Jail at the beginning of the city!
BTW for fun I have the bus going past the TSBD which I guess is unlikely because it would probably go straight down Main? I did a google maps public transport journey which is obviously more than half a century later and it took me all the way into Dallas via Commerce street? Anyway, you get the general idea. Thumb1:

JohnM

 :D - Still, it provides no proof of shooting Walker or any mention of the General.
Don't know when it was written and can only assume he is referring to moving to New Orleans
« Last Edit: March 17, 2025, 11:16:43 AM by Michael Capasse »

Offline Michael Capasse

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 791
Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #768 on: March 17, 2025, 11:19:32 AM »
Some time in May '63, that rifle went from Dallas to New Orleans, and Lee never got in the car.
Then, in Sept., that rifle went from New Orleans back to Dallas, and Lee never got in the car.
 Thumb1:That is unbelievable

Offline Tom Sorensen

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 134
Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #769 on: March 27, 2025, 04:09:16 PM »
Done what?  Practiced with the rifle?  Any time between its delivery and Nov. 22.  Marina confirmed that he practiced with the rifle.

So this thread, before being bumped, just dropped off of page two. It's safe to conclude that Richard bailed again after failing to present evidence of Oswald practicing with the rifle. Good old dependable Richard!