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Online John Mytton

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #735 on: March 16, 2025, 03:30:43 AM »
Put 2 things together that prove that rifle shot Walker.

Before we get started, almost every CK will mention the steel jacketed bullet and even though the mutilated Walker couldn't be 100% matched to Oswald's rifle, the bullet couldn't be ruled out.

Lt. Day took the evidence and scratched his name onto the bullet fragment, and that bullet was copper coated.

Mr. BELIN. I will ask you this. Have you ever seen Commission Exhibit 573 before, if you know?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir; I have.
Mr. BELIN. Could you tell us what 573 is?
Mr. DAY. This slug was gotten from the home of former General Edwin Walker, 4011 Turtle Creek, April 10, 1963, by Detective B. G. Brown, one of the officers under my supervision. He brought this in and released it to me.
Mr. BELIN. You are reading now from a report that is in your possession, is that correct?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir. Those are the official records of my office.
Mr. BELIN. Was that prepared under your supervision?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. In the regular course of your duties at the Dallas Police Department?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir. The slug has my name “DAY” scratched in it


And Frazier explains that some individuals refer to these types of bullets as steel-jacketed.

Eisenberg: Is this a jacketed bullet?
Frazier: Yes, it is a copper-alloy jacketed bullet having a lead core.
Eisenberg: Can you think of any reason why someone might have called this a steel-jacketed bullet?
Frazier: No sir; except that some individuals commonly refer to rifle bullets as steel-jacketed bullets, when they actually in fact just have a copper-alloy jacket


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Now for the evidence you requested, times 2!

• Found in Oswald's possessions, a photo of Walkers house. Also accompanying is written instructions for Marina which according to specific details can be correspondingly dated at the same time as the Walker assassination attempt, also of note is Oswald saying "if I'm alive and taken prisoner" means he wasn't planning on tiptoeing through the Tulips.



• Found in Oswald's possessions, a map with Walkers house location marked with a cross



• Found in Oswald's possessions, a photo taken with the same photo that took Oswald family snaps, of a laneway next to Walkers house, taken just before the assassination attempt and the time frame of when the photo was taken was determined by partially finished construction.





• And a decade and a half after the WC, when Marina Porter(previously known as Marina Oswald) had no reason to fear being deported she still recalls Oswald telling her about the Walker assassination attempt.

Mr. McDONALD. Directing your attention to that day, April 10, 1963, would you tell us what happened?
Mrs. PORTER. Well, I cannot remember the timing all the very vivid details of day. I just can state it that that particular night he did not come home until very late, and when he did not come home at regular time, I was worried about him. So I found a note addressed to me what to do in case if he did not come home. Of course I was petrified. Nobody I can turn to. But then later that night when he came home, I asked him to explain. He was out of breath and he was pale, and asked him to explain this note, and he said that "I just shot General Walker." So I was very upset and enraged about that, and we had an argument over it.


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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #736 on: March 16, 2025, 06:11:32 AM »
I hear some noise in the background; could that be John Mytton? Wrong bullet, according to Edwin Walker. He was there when the bullet was dug out of the wall.

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« Reply #737 on: March 16, 2025, 06:25:13 AM »
I hear some noise in the background; could that be John Mytton? Wrong bullet, according to Edwin Walker. He was there when the bullet was dug out of the wall.

OK, before everyone gets riled up, the bullet penetrated the wall and was found on a "stack of literature."

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« Reply #738 on: March 16, 2025, 07:08:37 AM »
We have arrived at the rabbit hole.  We have the testimony of Oswald's own wife that he practiced with the rifle and that he told her that he did so.  Your rebuttal is that she could be lying despite there being apparent no reason for her to lie about him practicing with the rifle.  It is not a crime to practice firing your rifle.   We have the logical inference that if Oswald ordered a rifle with his limited means and was so excited to get it that he posed for pictures, that he intended to use it.   There is otherwise no explanation for ordering the rifle.

We have arrived at the rabbit hole.

Looks like you already went over the edge.

We have the testimony of Oswald's own wife that he practiced with the rifle and that he told her that he did so.

Strange wording, "his own wife" as opposed to "his wife," which should have sufficed. Doubling down on her claim ("and") doesn't improve her credibility. She's a known liar.

Your rebuttal is that she could be lying despite there being apparent no reason for her to lie about him practicing with the rifle.

I pointed out your incorrect use of "confirm." I didn't speculate about her intend motive. Her claim remains unconfirmed.

It is not a crime to practice firing your rifle.   

Strawman, I didn't claim that.

We have the logical inference that if Oswald ordered a rifle with his limited means and was so excited to get it that he posed for pictures, he intended to use it.

Wrong, we have Richard's flawed inference. What you have at best is intent intend to pose in front of a camera with a rifle.

There is otherwise no explanation for ordering the rifle.

I just told you there is; you fail again.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2025, 08:09:18 AM by Tom Sorensen »

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #739 on: March 16, 2025, 07:40:23 AM »
I hear some noise in the background; could that be John Mytton? Wrong bullet, according to Edwin Walker. He was there when the bullet was dug out of the wall.

In his letter to the Attorney General, General Walker saw the bullet on TV during a HSCA broadcast and describes the bullet found at his house as a "hunk of lead" and "baring no resemblance to an unfired bullet in shape of form"



The bullet fragment from the Walker residence has a fair amount of lead showing.




CE 399 would be seen on a low res 1970's television broadcast to appear to be "unfired"



Conclusion

The HSCA showed CE 399 as opposed to the Walker bullet, and from Walker's very own description in the above letter it's clear he saw CE 399.

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #740 on: March 16, 2025, 08:42:29 AM »
Strange, the guys who were there described it as being steel jacketed.
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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #741 on: March 16, 2025, 01:40:25 PM »
We have arrived at the rabbit hole.

Looks like you already went over the edge.

We have the testimony of Oswald's own wife that he practiced with the rifle and that he told her that he did so.

Strange wording, "his own wife" as opposed to "his wife," which should have sufficed. Doubling down on her claim ("and") doesn't improve her credibility. She's a known liar.

Your rebuttal is that she could be lying despite there being apparent no reason for her to lie about him practicing with the rifle.

I pointed out your incorrect use of "confirm." I didn't speculate about her intend motive. Her claim remains unconfirmed.

It is not a crime to practice firing your rifle.   

Strawman, I didn't claim that.

We have the logical inference that if Oswald ordered a rifle with his limited means and was so excited to get it that he posed for pictures, he intended to use it.

Wrong, we have Richard's flawed inference. What you have at best is intent intend to pose in front of a camera with a rifle.

There is otherwise no explanation for ordering the rifle.

I just told you there is; you fail again.

So many words but again no responses.  Again, can you tells us what Marina lied about?  And it's not a logical inference that someone who buys a rifle will use it to shoot?   HA HA HA HA.  Can you tell us what someone would do with a rifle?  It appears to have a singular purpose, but do you think Oswald intended to so something other than fire it like using it as a hockey stick to gain entry into the NHL?  It's embarrassing to see the lengths that you will go to avoid admitting the obvious.