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Offline Tim Nickerson

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« Reply #623 on: March 10, 2025, 11:41:38 PM »
Which only tells us that Carolyn Arnold was a human being who doesn't get everything right all the time. People misremember. I don't remember exactly what I saw or said 15 years ago. How about you, Tim?

The one consistent is of course that she says every time that she saw Oswald shortly before the assassination. Regardless if it was 12:15 or 12:25, it was a time when Oswald was supposed to have been in the sniper's nest, right?

What it tells us is that Carolyn Arnold was not reliable.

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #624 on: March 10, 2025, 11:43:24 PM »
You do realize that Carolyn Arnold said she saw Oswald in the "first floor" lunchroom and the Domino room was on the ground floor!? DOH!
BTW have you worked out what a "room" is? Hahahahaha!

JohnM

You do realize that Carolyn Arnold said she saw Oswald in the "first floor" lunchroom and the Domino room was on the ground floor!? DOH!

Oh boy.... Baker saw Oswald in in the 2nd floor lunchroom, right?

The Domino room was one floor below that... so what floor is that?

Offline Tim Nickerson

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« Reply #625 on: March 10, 2025, 11:43:56 PM »
I'm not aware of any mishandling of fungible evidence by the DPD.

Of course you are not aware... that's part of the problem

Well then, why not educate me here? What were the fungible items of evidence and how were they mishandled by the DPD?

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #626 on: March 10, 2025, 11:44:32 PM »
What it tells us is that Carolyn Arnold was not reliable.

But a guy like Brennan was?

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #627 on: March 10, 2025, 11:50:42 PM »
Well then, why not educate me here? What were the fungible items of evidence and how were they mishandled by the DPD?

Ok, I'll give you two simple examples.

The jacket that was found in a parking lot (described on DPD radio as being white) was handled, according to Captain Westbrook by himself and two unidentified officers. So, how come there are markings of seven officers on the grey jacket now in evidence?

Another example is the paper bag and the blanket. The claim is that fibers of the blanket were found in the paper bag, but there is photographic evidence that shows the blanket and the bag lying next to eachother. One is a DPD photo showing the items before they were sent to Washington and the other was taken in the FBI lab showing the two items lying next to eachother.


Online John Mytton

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« Reply #628 on: March 10, 2025, 11:54:46 PM »
You do realize that Carolyn Arnold said she saw Oswald in the "first floor" lunchroom and the Domino room was on the ground floor!? DOH!

Oh boy.... Baker saw Oswald in in the 2nd floor lunchroom, right?

The Domino room was one floor below that... so what floor is that?

Focus Martin, my response was your incorrect assumption that Arnold's sighting of Oswald in the first floor lunchroom somehow erroneously "fit with the Norman/Jarman sighting" on the first floor. :D


 
On Nov 22, 1997, Carolyn Arnold told John Young  that she was 100% positive that Lee Oswald was in the first floor lunchroom at 12.25 that day. He was sitting there calmly eating his lunch.

I didn't know that she told John Young this, but it would fit with the Norman/Jarman sighting which also took place around 12.25. So, perhaps he did have an alibi after all.

JohnM

Offline Tim Nickerson

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« Reply #629 on: March 11, 2025, 12:09:43 AM »
But a guy like Brennan was?

Brennan was much more reliable than her. He identified Oswald in a lineup but declined to say positively that he was the one who he saw firing a rifle from the Southeast window of the sixth floot of the depository. When testifying under oath he explained why he chose not to. Carolyn Arnold told four different stories.