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Offline Michael Capasse

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #469 on: March 07, 2025, 01:59:32 AM »
John Myton is working overtime to educate you on the facts but it does not appear to be taking. If you decide to actually contribute something to the discussion instead of this nonsense that would be great.

Mytton is in the same dilemma as you. He just has more pictures.
...they provide no further proof but appear right on cue.

Sometimes they flash and blink with yellow squigglys.

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #470 on: March 07, 2025, 02:05:50 AM »
MC--"One hand near the top -  the other for support at the bottom. I seriously don't understand your point."

This is also obvious. If the almost touches the ground and his left hand is near the bottom, LHO has to be bent over to be holding.

Oswald is 5 feet 9 inches----69 inches tall, LHO waist would be approximately 29 inches

The bag is 27 inches. 

Oswald right hand is several inches below the top. Left hand near the bottom.

Linnie Mae stated the bag almost touched the ground. That would make LHO’s right hand below 6 inches + below his waist and his left hand near the ground. He would have to be bent at the waist to carry the package with the bottom close the ground along with his left hand.

Mrs. RANDLE. He was carrying a package in a sort of a heavy brown bag, heavier than a grocery bag it looked to me. It was about, if I might measure, about this long, I suppose, and he carried it in his right hand, had the top sort of folded down and had a grip like this, and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know, and it almost touched the ground as he carried it.


Mr. BALL. And he was grabbing it with his right hand at the top of the package and the package almost touched the ground?

Mrs. RANDLE. Yes, sir.


I made this graphic a few years ago illustrating how Linnie Mae was describing how Oswald was holding the bag, and if the bag was only 2 feet long then it wouldn't be almost touching the ground because Oswald isn't a gorilla!



Also another fun fact, is if you look at Oswald's bag being taken from the depository the bottom which is the open side is excessively crumpled as if someone was holding it like Linnie Mae described!



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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #471 on: March 07, 2025, 02:10:33 AM »
Mytton is in the same dilemma as you. He just has more pictures.
...they provide no further proof but appear right on cue.

Sometimes they flash and blink with yellow squigglys.

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Mytton is in the same dilemma as you. He just has more pictures.
...they provide no further proof but appear right on cue.

Check out the images I posted directly before this one, it'll blow your mind!

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Sometimes they flash and blink with yellow squigglys.

They flash when I compare two photos and "coloured squigglys" are to highlight specific characteristics for those a bit slower than the rest of us!

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #472 on: March 07, 2025, 02:23:51 AM »

He didn't pay attention to the bag, but what exactly was Frazier's mistake?

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #473 on: March 07, 2025, 02:33:15 AM »
I made this graphic a few years ago illustrating how Linnie Mae was describing how Oswald was holding the bag, and if the bag was only 2 feet long then it wouldn't be almost touching the ground because Oswald isn't a gorilla!



Also another fun fact, is if you look at Oswald's bag being taken from the depository the bottom which is the open side is excessively crumpled as if someone was holding it like Linnie Mae described!



JohnM

Great graphics John. Linnie adjusts the length of the bag to 27 inches but she does not alter her memory of how LHO held it to fit the new size. You picture is what a person envisions if LHO is holding it with one hand but I don’t think that is not what she is describing. Linnie changes the length of the bag but does not change how she remembers him holding it. Even though she states the bag is 27 inches long now, she still is referencing LHO holding the bag as being 3 feet 6 inches long. I think he had his right hand grasping the barrel below the front sight because of how she described it, and then she is still is referring to his left hand holding the bottom or near it. 

Linnie:  “and the bottom, he carried it this way, you know,”

If LHO is holding the bottom of the bag and it is 27 inches long and close to the ground he has to be bent over.

Mr Ball needed to get her to elaborate on how LHO was supporting it in more detail but he lets her just reference it the once. But once is enough to understand the bag was not 27 inches long.

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #474 on: March 07, 2025, 02:38:44 AM »
The rifle broken down is 34.8 inches long,  About 40 inches assembled.
So, whatever Frazier saw was obviously not the rifle.

How does this prove what LMR saw was any longer?

MC "One hand near the top -  the other for support at the bottom. I seriously don't understand your point"

You never incorporated your statement about how LHO was holding the bag in your reply. Tuere is no doubt as to why. Obviously, you understand its importance. Linnie Mae exposed BWF estimate of the bag as being false.

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Re: Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #475 on: March 07, 2025, 03:06:51 AM »
MC "One hand near the top -  the other for support at the bottom. I seriously don't understand your point"

You never incorporated your statement about how LHO was holding the bag in your reply. Tuere is no doubt as to why. Obviously, you understand its importance. Linnie Mae exposed BWF estimate of the bag as being false.

WHY? please tell me. - I'm talking to a brick  - I'll say it again...
A shorter package does not refute what LMR saw. I just don't know what else to say.

Frazier saw a bag from his palm to his armpit. How is that the rifle?
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