Can somebody match this photo to the Z-film

[John Corbett]

I'm not very good at syncing photos and films so maybe somebody can help me out. I posted this picture in the thread arguing that Dr. Baden refuted the SBT:

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth1352810/m1/1/high_res/

I'm fairly certain that is the TSBD in the background which means it was taken seconds before the shooting started. One thing that caught my eye is the position of JFK's right hand. Harold Norman testified that he thought JFK was either brushing his hair or saluting the crowd just before he heard the first shot and that seems to fit with what we see from JFK in this photo. What really got me curious is the position of JBC's left hand which seems to be waving to the people on the north side of Elm St. I've tried to match this to a Zapruder frame but I can't make out any Z-frame in which it appears Connally has raised his left hand. This leads me to believe the photo might have been taken just before Zapruder resumed filming which would prevent it from being matched to a frame. I'm wondering if someone has enhanced frames from the Z-film from Z133 onward that would show JBC with his left hand raised. I think this is an important photo because of how close in time it seems to be to the start of the shooting.

[Royell Storing]

I'm not very good at syncing photos and films so maybe somebody can help me out. I posted this picture in the thread arguing that Dr. Baden refuted the SBT:

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth1352810/m1/1/high_res/

I'm fairly certain that is the TSBD in the background which means it was taken seconds before the shooting started. One thing that caught my eye is the position of JFK's right hand. Harold Norman testified that he thought JFK was either brushing his hair or saluting the crowd just before he heard the first shot and that seems to fit with what we see from JFK in this photo. What really got me curious is the position of JBC's left hand which seems to be waving to the people on the north side of Elm St. I've tried to match this to a Zapruder frame but I can't make out any Z-frame in which it appears Connally has raised his left hand. This leads me to believe the photo might have been taken just before Zapruder resumed filming which would prevent it from being matched to a frame. I'm wondering if someone has enhanced frames from the Z-film from Z133 onward that would show JBC with his left hand raised. I think this is an important photo because of how close in time it seems to be to the start of the shooting.

   Do you or anyone else know who took the photo above? I looked through the "Photo Gallery" here and it is Not Betzner, Willis, either Towner, or Croft. Thanks

[Steve Barber]

   Do you or anyone else know who took the photo above? I looked through the "Photo Gallery" here and it is Not Betzner, Willis, either Towner, or Croft. Thanks

Hi Royell,


It's Phil Willis's first slide after the turn onto Elm Street. .

[Royell Storing]

Hi Royell,


It's Phil Willis's first slide after the turn onto Elm Street. .

  Thanks Steve. My fault. It is posted here.

[Jarrett Smith]

I'm not very good at syncing photos and films so maybe somebody can help me out. I posted this picture in the thread arguing that Dr. Baden refuted the SBT:

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth1352810/m1/1/high_res/

I'm fairly certain that is the TSBD in the background which means it was taken seconds before the shooting started. One thing that caught my eye is the position of JFK's right hand. Harold Norman testified that he thought JFK was either brushing his hair or saluting the crowd just before he heard the first shot and that seems to fit with what we see from JFK in this photo. What really got me curious is the position of JBC's left hand which seems to be waving to the people on the north side of Elm St. I've tried to match this to a Zapruder frame but I can't make out any Z-frame in which it appears Connally has raised his left hand. This leads me to believe the photo might have been taken just before Zapruder resumed filming which would prevent it from being matched to a frame. I'm wondering if someone has enhanced frames from the Z-film from Z133 onward that would show JBC with his left hand raised. I think this is an important photo because of how close in time it seems to be to the start of the shooting.

John, I'm guessing Z145 maybe?

[Mark Ulrik]

You can find all the Phil Willis slides here:

https://emuseum.jfk.org/collections/32420/phil-willis-slides/objects

And here:

https://texashistory.unt.edu/search/?q=%22phil+willis+slide%22&sort=title

[John Corbett]

John, I'm guessing Z145 maybe?

You could be right given the view of JBC's left hand would be blocked if it is raised at the frame. His head is turned to his right as it is in the photo.

I wasn't fishing for confirmation of by belief that the first shot was fired at Z147 but if that slide was taken at Z145 and if Harold Norman was correct that the first shot was fired just as JFK was brushing his hair, it does fit. There's two "ifs" in that analysis so I'm not claiming it as proof of my belief, but it does provide some support. Given Norman's close proximity to Oswald, there would be almost no lag time between the shot being fired and Norman hearing that shot.