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Author Topic: Lee Bowers on the Timing of Shots on 11.22  (Read 1246 times)

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Bowers on the Timing of Shots on 11.22
« Reply #28 on: Today at 12:19:01 AM »
Since you know the evidence so well and like to tell all of the lone assassin believers where they're wrong (but surprisingly not the conspiracists), why not tell us who you believe shot JFK? What does the evidence tell you?

You've been posting for roughly a decade. Nearly ten thousand posts over that time. How about just one post telling us who shot JFK? After all, this is the "JFK Assassination Forum" not the "Oswald Didn't Shoot JFK Forum." Don't be shy.

Since you know the evidence so well and like to tell all of the lone assassin believers where they're wrong

Why do you need to make a strawman argument? I never claimed to know the evidence "so well", nor have I ever told a LN that they are wrong. At best, I have been asking questions that LNs can't or don't want to answer. So, why are you so paranoid?

why not tell us who you believe shot JFK?

I can't because I don't know. Just like you, I wasn't there and just like you I can only work with the known evidence, without actually knowing if it is indeed all of the evidence or if it is authentic. Unlike you, I don't jump to conclusions based on assumptions and speculation.

What does the evidence tell you?

That the whole case is a mess. You get one piece of evidence and something else contradicts it. It is my impression that the basic idea is to keep everybody guessing and that seems to have worked since day one.

You've been posting for roughly a decade. Nearly ten thousand posts over that time. How about just one post telling us who shot JFK?

And solve the case for you?  :D   Nah, just keep guessing.  Thumb1:

Btw why are you so desperate to know what I think?

It seems to me that you have noticed from my "nearly ten thousand posts" that I don't make claims I can't conclusively back up with hard evidence, and you just can't handle that!

After all, this is the "JFK Assassination Forum" not the "Oswald Didn't Shoot JFK Forum."

True, it's also not the "we claim Oswald shot JFK, but we can't provide conclusive evidence for it Forum".

Since you responded to my post, I have to ask; Why don't you have a problem with evidence being misrepresented, ignored and dismissed?
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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Lee Bowers on the Timing of Shots on 11.22
« Reply #29 on: Today at 12:20:27 AM »
Since you know the evidence so well and like to tell all of the lone assassin believers where they're wrong (but surprisingly not the conspiracists), why not tell us who you believe shot JFK? What does the evidence tell you?

You've been posting for roughly a decade. Nearly ten thousand posts over that time. How about just one post telling us who shot JFK? After all, this is the "JFK Assassination Forum" not the "Oswald Didn't Shoot JFK Forum."

"The evil, evil, evil Military Industrial Intelligence-Community Complex was able to cover up the "hit" so well that we'll never know who the actual shooters (plural) were."

Online John Corbett

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Re: Lee Bowers on the Timing of Shots on 11.22
« Reply #30 on: Today at 03:01:18 AM »
Since you know the evidence so well and like to tell all of the lone assassin believers where they're wrong (but surprisingly not the conspiracists), why not tell us who you believe shot JFK? What does the evidence tell you?

You've been posting for roughly a decade. Nearly ten thousand posts over that time. How about just one post telling us who shot JFK? After all, this is the "JFK Assassination Forum" not the "Oswald Didn't Shoot JFK Forum."

Weidmann will never tell you what he believes. That would require him to take a stand that he would have to defend. He's here just to troll without ever contributing anything to the discourse. He get's his jollies by being a nuisance.
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Online Benjamin Cole

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Re: Lee Bowers on the Timing of Shots on 11.22
« Reply #31 on: Today at 03:40:25 AM »
MW--

I largely agree with the sentiments you express herein.

The fact I cannot specify who perped and exactly how the JFKA unfolded, does not mean the LNT is plausible.

For me, the LNT is implausible, as it was to the HSCA-1979. The question is, why do people consider the LNT plausible, given the HSCA findings?

Rapid cadence shots in 11/22, gunsmoke in the GK, a man with fake Secret Service credentials in the GK, a wound pattern on JBC suggesting he was shot separately from JFK...all point away from the LNT.

My guess is a very small small JFKAC, possibly linked to Alpha 66, or G2 DGI. Two people and LHO.

Puerto Rican nationalist conspired to murder Truman. "On November 1, 1950, two Puerto Rican nationalists, Oscar Collazo and Griselio Torresola, attempted to assassinate President Harry S. Truman at Blair House in Washington, D.C."

Very small plot.

Cuban nationalism was running high in 1963.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Lee Bowers on the Timing of Shots on 11.22
« Reply #32 on: Today at 03:44:45 AM »
The LNT is implausible, as it was to the HSCA-1979.

You're full of beans.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Bowers on the Timing of Shots on 11.22
« Reply #33 on: Today at 03:46:29 AM »
Weidmann will never tell you what he believes. That would require him to take a stand that he would have to defend. He's here just to troll without ever contributing anything to the discourse. He get's his jollies by being a nuisance.
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Weidmann will never tell you what he believes.

And you nevertheless know what I believe?   :D

That would require him to take a stand that he would have to defend.

Why would I take a stand and defend it, when I haven't got one?

He's here just to troll without ever contributing anything to the discourse.

No. I'm just asking questions clowns like you can't or don't want to answer

Perhaps you should try to (honestly) answer a simple question and maybe we can have a real conversation after that!
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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Lee Bowers on the Timing of Shots on 11.22
« Reply #34 on: Today at 05:00:46 AM »
Weidmann will never tell you what he believes.

And you nevertheless know what I believe?   :D

That would require him to take a stand that he would have to defend.

Why would I take a stand and defend it, when I haven't got one?

He's here just to troll without ever contributing anything to the discourse.

No. I'm just asking questions clowns like you can't or don't want to answer

Perhaps you should try to (honestly) answer a simple question and maybe we can have a real conversation after that!

You come across as a professional troll.

Are you a professional troll?