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Offline Bill Brown

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Time Trial, Depository to Tenth & Patton
« on: Yesterday at 10:18:55 PM »
My time trials performed in November of 2025:

Walk from the Depository front steps to the point Oswald boarded the McWatters bus... 6:55

Allow for four minutes being on the bus (McWatters testified "not over four or five minutes)... 4:00

Based on McWatters statement of where it was that Oswald exited the bus, walk over to the Greyhound station... 3:26

The cab ride from the Greyhound station to Beckley & Neely... 4:53

Walk from Beckley & Neely back to the rooming house... 5:54

Allow for one minute back inside the room (Earlene Roberts testified that Oswald was in his room "just long enough to grab a jacket and put it on")... 1:00

Allow for two minutes to be seen by Earlene Roberts standing at the bus stop outside the rooming house.... 2:00

Walk from the bus stop to Tenth & Patton... 12:20

Total time... 40:28

So if I leave the Depository at 12:33, I arrive at Tenth & Patton a little after 1:13 PM

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And keep in mind, on the Unsolved History special, the Gary Mack-Dave Perry Oswald double walked from the rooming house to Tenth & Patton literally a full minute faster than me.
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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Time Trial, Depository to Tenth & Patton
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 10:28:31 PM »
It should be noted, I did pause the timer at the three red lights I came to while driving from the Greyhound station over to Beckley & Neely.  I was performing these tests to determine for myself the EARLIEST one could arrive at Tenth & Patton.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Time Trial, Depository to Tenth & Patton
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 10:34:36 PM »
Two comments;

Your calculation is correct when all the estimated times are spot on. When they are not, the calculation is pretty worthless.

And thank you for proving that Oswald couldn't have been at 10th/Patton to kill Tippit, if that happened prior to 13.12.

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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Time Trial, Depository to Tenth & Patton
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 11:51:25 PM »
My time trials performed in November of 2025:

Walk from the Depository front steps to the point Oswald boarded the McWatters bus... 6:55

Allow for four minutes being on the bus (McWatters testified "not over four or five minutes)... 4:00

Based on McWatters statement of where it was that Oswald exited the bus, walk over to the Greyhound station... 3:26

The cab ride from the Greyhound station to Beckley & Neely... 4:53

Walk from Beckley & Neely back to the rooming house... 5:54

Allow for one minute back inside the room (Earlene Roberts testified that Oswald was in his room "just long enough to grab a jacket and put it on")... 1:00

Allow for two minutes to be seen by Earlene Roberts standing at the bus stop outside the rooming house.... 2:00

Walk from the bus stop to Tenth & Patton... 12:20

Total time... 40:28

So if I leave the Depository at 12:33, I arrive at Tenth & Patton a little after 1:13 PM

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And keep in mind, on the Unsolved History special, the Gary Mack-Dave Perry Oswald double walked from the rooming house to Tenth & Patton literally a full minute faster than me.
Bill: If Oswald had walked directly from the rooming house, using the straightest/shortest route, to the movie theater about how much time would it have taken? What time would he have arrived?

Online John Corbett

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Re: Time Trial, Depository to Tenth & Patton
« Reply #5 on: Today at 12:35:17 AM »
Recreations can only show us what is possible. They can't really prove how long Oswald to get from points A to point B. B to C, C to D....and so on. It sounds like the recreation described in the OP was in the ballpark. It certainly doesn't refute the finding that Oswald killed Tippit, which all the credible evidence indicates he did.
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Online Zeon Mason

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Re: Time Trial, Depository to Tenth & Patton
« Reply #6 on: Today at 02:51:13 AM »
The DOA 1:15 time is a problem for me.

It’s 1:15 on the emergency room clock that the doctor records when he pronounced Tippit DOA.

That time coincides  nicely with Bowleys post shooting wristwatch time of 1:10 seeing Tippit already laying on ground and Markams pre shooting estimate time of 1:07 so sighting Oswald and Tippit following Oswald.

So why the DPD dispatch has a time that is 1:16 for Bowley radio call at 1:10 (by his watch ) has to be either collusion or everyone else’s clock  including the emergency room doctors clock was 5 to 7 minutes slow relative to the dispatchers clock.

It’s possible but in the case of the emergency room clock one would think that the hospital would keep clocks in emergency rooms in sync with “official” police time. Then again, this particular hospital could be a little sloppy like the emergency room I was in today for 8 hrs and could not get any diagnosis of even a general one  and I finally left the place out of hunger and dehydration not having eaten for 22 hrs.A Z-Gen orderly told me it was nothing to be concerned about not having eaten in 22 hrs. Yea, no concern for HIM no doubt.  ::)


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