Would any CT want to take a crack at this

[John Corbett]

Over the years, I've posed this question to countless CTs on this and other forums and they seem to want to avoid it the way Dracula avoids sunlight. Perhaps if I ask it in its own thread, I might get a CT to respond.

The question is based on a very simple premise. JFK's right hand was still moving downward at Z225 when he first reappears from behind the sign. We know this because we can see his right hand at Z224. It wasn't until frame Z226 that both of JFK's arms start upward in reaction to the bullet that passed through his throat. At that same frame, JBC's right hand which was holding his Stetson suddenly started moving upward. He made a rapid up and down movement of his right arm which lasted for 9 frames or roughly a half second. That was followed immediately by him doubling over and twisting to his right, which is the reaction he remembered making.

My question is simple. If you don't believe JBC's sudden up and down movement of his right arm is in reaction to it being struck by the same bullet that had just passed through JFK's throat, what do you think could have caused that sudden up an down motion of his right arm.

[Tim Nickerson]

[Brian Doyle]

January 7 rioter Ashli Babbit was shot in the front of the neck by a Capitol Building guard...She fell back in to the hallway on her back and, if you look closely at the footage, her arms and hands were raised towards her throat in the Thorburn Position EXACTLY the same way as Kennedy...

Babbit was shot from the front...

[Dan O'meara]

A basic analysis of the Z-film shows us both men reacting in an incredibly extreme way beginning around z225 (indicating a shot passing through both of them around z222/z223).
It is baffling that a lot of people can't recognise this.
What is equally baffling is that Nutters believe the bullet that passed through them is CE399. The cursory examination of the condition, the injuries and 'provenance' of CE399 demonstrates, beyond any reasonable doubt, that it had nothing to do with the shot at z222/z223. It is accepted into evidence as a bullet found in Parkland without a single person identifying it as such. This fact alone should have alarm bells ringing.

[John Corbett]

A basic analysis of the Z-film shows us both men reacting in an incredibly extreme way beginning around z225 (indicating a shot passing through both of them around z222/z223).
It is baffling that a lot of people can't recognise this.
What is equally baffling is that Nutters believe the bullet that passed through them is CE399. The cursory examination of the condition, the injuries and 'provenance' of CE399 demonstrates, beyond any reasonable doubt, that it had nothing to do with the shot at z222/z223. It is accepted into evidence as a bullet found in Parkland without a single person identifying it as such. This fact alone should have alarm bells ringing.

Perhaps I should have been more specific in the title of the thread. I should have addressed it to CTs who dispute the SBT. A small percentage of CTs do accept the SBT and find their belief in conspiracy for other reasons. I think the primary reason for so many people doubting Oswald acted alone is their doubts about the SBT and for many of those folks, it was the courtroom demonstration performed by Costner/Garrison in Oliver Stone's fictional account of the JFKA. I remember coming out of the movie theater and hearing many of the patrons expressing their doubts about Oswald acting alone based on that scene. It's a shame that Ollie's movie was the primary source of their "knowledge" of the JFKA.

[Tom Graves]

I think the primary reason for so many people doubting Oswald acted alone is their doubts about the SBT, and for many of those folks, it was the courtroom demonstration performed by Costner/Garrison in Oliver Stone's fictional account of the JFKA. I remember coming out of the movie theater and hearing many of the patrons expressing their doubts about Oswald's acting alone based on that scene. It's a shame that Ollie's movie was the primary source of their "knowledge" of the JFKA.

It's a shame that traumatized-by-Vietnam-War Comrade Stone's self-described mythological ("to counter the myth of the Warren Report") movie was based in large part on Jim Garrison's 1989 book, On the Trail of the Assassins, which in turn was based on Garrison's futile 1969 trial of Clay Shaw, which in turn was based on an article in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper (Paese Sera) which motivated the overly ambitious, scandal-plagued, and revengeful DA to change his theory against Shaw from "He masterminded a Loeb-and-Leopold-like homosexual thrill-kill assassination of JFK!!!" to "He organized it for the evil, evil, evil CIA!!!"

[John Corbett]

I posted this challenge to the CTs four days ago and the only one willing to comment was one who believes the SBT. This is not at all surprising. Much of the CT skepticism about the WCR rests on their rejection of the SBT. One of the few things in the WCR that I disagreed with was their statement that the SBT was not essential to the finding that Oswald was the lone assassin. I agree with the CTs who have taken the position that without the SBT, there had to be a second shooter. However, the SBT has stood the test of time and it remains the only plausible explanation for JFK's non-fatal wounds and all of JBC's wounds.

Since most CTs reject the SBT and that rejection is so critical to their rejection of the single assassin, the question I posed to them in the OP is a real conundrum for them. JBC's sudden flip of his right arm at Z226, simultaneous with the beginning of JFK's rapid upward movement with both arms is an inconvenient truth for them. When I posed this question to Tony Marsh on John McAdams' forum his response was to simply deny JBC made any such movement of his right arm, which of course is ludicrous. It's there for all to see.

I would wager that most people, LN and CT alike, are even aware of JBC's arm flip. I'm sure no one on the WC noticed it. I first became aware of it when I saw it on David von Pein's outstanding website and I'm guessing that was roughly 10 years ago. When I saw that, any doubts I might have had about the SBT vanished. I don't know who first noticed that arm flip. For years, many LNs believed that JBC didn't react to being shot until the mid-Z230s which is when JBC himself believed he was struck. Since it was also believed that JFK was already reacting when he first reappeared at Z225, this forced them to believe JBC had a slightly delayed reaction. However, DVP's website dispelled both those myths. JFK was struck while he was behind the sign but his physical reaction didn't start until one frame after he reappeared. It also revealed that JBC had a two-stage reaction. First came the arm flip which was likely a completely involuntary reflexive response that JBC was completely unaware of. The second stage was the cognitive response JBC remembered making which was when he doubled over and twisted dramatically to his right, making almost a 180 degree rotation in his seat.

Maybe one of the SBT skeptics will eventually weigh in on this issue but I doubt it. Inconvenient truths are best left ignored when they challenge one's foundational beliefs.