How Do LNers Deal With Givens?

[Zeon Mason]

The Myers  computer graphics model somehow aligns the SBT trajectory. It looks good in that computer simulated reality, however in the real world of physics experiments the trajectory did not work out so well since no experiment so far has been able to replicate the bullet exiting the throat. They got it almost there in the 2003 experiment with the 2 torso models demonstrating the 6.5mm bullet fired from the MC rifle could go thru 2 bodies. However the straight line trajectory is clearly well below the throat wound location.

The experiment left  off the arms and hands and heads and the torsos were fixed and stationary. Thus experiment was doomed from the start to be an inaccurate representation, probably because they did. not wish to address the wrist wound problem and where exactly JCs right hand was positioned at Z224.

[John Corbett]

The Myers  computer graphics model somehow aligns the SBT trajectory. It looks good in that computer simulated reality, however in the real world of physics experiments the trajectory did not work out so well since no experiment so far has been able to replicate the bullet exiting the throat. They got it almost there in the 2003 experiment with the 2 torso models demonstrating the 6.5mm bullet fired from the MC rifle could go thru 2 bodies. However the straight line trajectory is clearly well below the throat wound location.

The experiment left  off the arms and hands and heads and the torsos were fixed and stationary. Thus experiment was doomed from the start to be an inaccurate representation, probably because they did. not wish to address the wrist wound problem and where exactly JCs right hand was positioned at Z224.

You give no specifics on how the straight line trajectory was determined so why should we assume this experiment was more accurate than what Dale Myers did.

The best evidence of the SBT trajectory is what did happen on 11/22/1963. We know the bullet that entered JFK's back exited his throat. It is hard to believe that the bullet would not have struck JBC somewhere on his back. If the experiment you reference indicates the bullet would have hit JBC lower than it did, than obviously, the experiment was faulty.

In order for any recreation to refute the SBT, it would need to show how the bullet that exited from JFK's throat could have missed JBC and if it did, what it would have hit. Any experiment or recreation that shows the bullet would have hit JBC somewhere other than where it did has disproved itself, not the SBT.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

The wording is what was FUBAR. The bullet did not hit JFK in the back of the neck. I don't know why he proposed that. Perhaps he misunderstood Humes's testimony.

I agree with 99% of what I have read in the WCR. If I could change one thing in the report, that would be it.

If I could change two things, the second one would be their statement that SBT is not essential to the finding that JFK was killed by a lone gunman. If there was no single bullet, there had to be a second shooter.

Ford didn't see the autopsy photos; he had to rely on the autopsy report and the testimony. Warren absurdly decided not to allow anyone, including the members (not just the staff), to see them.

From Humes' testimony: "The wound in the low neck of which I had previously begun to speak is now posteriorly--is now depicted in 385, in 386 and in 388."

Here is what Ford saw:



And 388


Placing the wound on the neck is completely understandable based on what he heard and was shown.

From the Shenon book on the photos: "Now that he [i.e., Warren] had seen the photos for himself, Warren said he did not struggle about what to do with them.  It was an easy decision: they would be locked away, forever, unless the Kennedy family decided otherwise. No one outside the family had the right to see them—and that included the other members of the commission and its staff, Warren decided. He ordered all of the autopsy photos, as well as all of the X-rays, be sent to the Justice Department, where Robert Kennedy would have control over them. Warren convinced himself that the commission did not need the photos and X-rays, since the navy doctors who had conducted the autopsy were available to testify and the commission had full access to the written autopsy report, which contained hand-drawn diagrams of the wounds to the president’s body. The photos and X-rays were of no special value, Warren declared. The commission, he said, would have “the convincing testimony of the Naval doctors who performed the autopsy to establish the cause of death, entry, exit and course of the bullets.”