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Author Topic: Before which of the three shots did JFK and Jackie wave to Mary Woodward?  (Read 235 times)

Online Tom Graves

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In her 23 November 1963 Dallas Morning News article, Mary Woodward, who had met JFK several times at campaign and political events prior to his presidency, said:

1) There were three shots (Correct)

2) JFK and Jackie both turned and smiled and waved at her and her colleagues before the first shot (Wrong. JFK turned, smiled, and waved at her -- and her three colleagues -- between Z-180 and Z-190, about two seconds before the second shot. We can presume that Jackie did the same because in Z-190 her head is no longer turned far to her left but far to her right in Woodward's direction.)

3) The first shot missed everything. (Correct)

4) JFK and Jackie turned their heads in response to the first shot. (Correct. JFK turned his head quickly to his left in Z-144; Jackie turned her head farther to her left and was "captured" looking at Robert Croft in his Z-161 photo.)

5) The limo slowed down and almost stopped after the first shot. (Wrong. It slowed down after the second shot)


Z-144
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z144.jpg

Z-180
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z180.jpg

Z-190
For those of you with good eyesight, look how far Secret Service Agents Glen Bennett and George Hickey in the rear seat of the follow-up car have leaned over to their right and left, respectively. (Bennet is sitting much lower than Hickey and is leaning his head very far to his right in order to see around Dave Powers in front of him.)
https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z190.jpg


« Last Edit: July 26, 2026, 10:44:35 AM by Tom Graves »

Online Duncan MacRae

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Re: Before which of the three shots did JFK and Jackie wave to Mary Moorman?


Online Tom Graves

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JFK and Jackie weren't monkeying around when they turned, smiled, and waved at Mary Moorman Woodward and her three colleagues between Z-180 and Z-190 instead of just before Oswald's early, missing-everything, first shot (which Woodward mistakenly reported in her 11/23/63 Dallas Morning News article).

Sadly, what happened a few seconds later around Z-222 and at Z-313 made everyone in Dealey Plaza go apexxxx.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2026, 09:52:01 AM by Tom Graves »

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There were at least six shots:

"Reactions to Six Shots in the Zapruder Film"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nnp3Vch_KMOB_qufAhlQOCLTTS9jqNV0/view?usp=drive_link

"Extra Bullets and Missed Shots in Dealey Plaza"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WRwhDQ9HMydf5pICsHwgtkoNKw0YSO8T/view?usp=sharing

Online John Corbett

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There were at least six shots:

"Reactions to Six Shots in the Zapruder Film"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nnp3Vch_KMOB_qufAhlQOCLTTS9jqNV0/view?usp=drive_link

"Extra Bullets and Missed Shots in Dealey Plaza"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WRwhDQ9HMydf5pICsHwgtkoNKw0YSO8T/view?usp=sharing

<chuckle> 6 shots and only two recovered bullets. We now know who the assassins were. It was the Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight. Even back then, it was hard to find good help.

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Michael Griffith praises the acoustics analysis that concluded there were two shooters and four shots (none of the shots was at circa 250 through the windshield but never mind) but then he says they were wrong because they missed one impulse (shot) and that the other shooters were using suppressors/silencers.

And to put a bow on this he says one of the shooters was "possibly" Babushka Lady using a camera gun. I guess a camera gun with a suppressor?

Unseen shooters firing unheard shots including a shot from a camera gun. Welcome to JFK conspiracy world.

« Last Edit: July 31, 2026, 07:28:29 PM by Steve M. Galbraith »