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Online Andrew Mason

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Re: Mary Woodward said there were 3 shots and the 1st shot missed everything
« Reply #119 on: August 08, 2026, 01:21:10 AM »
Maybe Perplexity AI "hallucinated."

AI has been known to do that.

Question: Did the HSCA panel say JFK splayed his elbows outwards and held his motionless hands and fingers in front of his throat because he couldn't breathe?
I don’t think anyone said they were certain what prompted him to do that. As far as I can tell no one said that it was certainly not a response to being unable to breathe.

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Re: Mary Woodward said there were 3 shots and the 1st shot missed everything
« Reply #120 on: August 08, 2026, 01:48:41 AM »
I don’t think anyone said they were certain what prompted him to do that. As far as I can tell no one said that it was certainly not a response to being unable to breathe.

It's too bad that English is your second language.

Did anyone say, "It could have been a neurological response OR an attempt to breathe"?

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Re: Mary Woodward said there were 3 shots and the 1st shot missed everything
« Reply #121 on: August 08, 2026, 03:49:26 PM »
It's too bad that English is your second language.

Did anyone say, "It could have been a neurological response OR an attempt to breathe"?
Did any doctor who treated JFK or any doctor at any time say that JFK would have had no difficulty breathing?  In fact, they all said that it would have caused difficulty breathing. In fact, Dr. Perry opened his trachea to restore breathing.  So the question is which part of his reaction relates to difficulty breathing? Keep in mind that the HSCA concluded that JFK’s neck wound occurred at z190 or so. Two seconds delay is hardly a neuromuscular response.

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Re: Mary Woodward said there were 3 shots and the 1st shot missed everything
« Reply #122 on: August 08, 2026, 08:29:36 PM »
Did any doctor who treated JFK or any doctor at any time say that JFK would have had no difficulty breathing?  In fact, they all said that it would have caused difficulty breathing. In fact, Dr. Perry opened his trachea to restore breathing.  So the question is which part of his reaction relates to difficulty breathing? Keep in mind that the HSCA concluded that JFK’s neck wound occurred at z190 or so. Two seconds delay is hardly a neuromuscular response.

it is absurd to think JFK was hit at Z190 and showed no reaction until 2 seconds later when he suddenly flipped both arms upward, and coincidently JBC suddenly flipped his right erm upward. This is exactly what I meant when I said you lacked common sense.

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it is absurd to think JFK was hit at Z190 and showed no reaction until 2 seconds later when he suddenly flipped both arms upward, and coincidently JBC suddenly flipped his right erm upward. This is exactly what I meant when I said you lacked common sense.
Tom was suggesting that the HSCA said the JFK’s reaction was neuromuscular. I was just saying that a neuromuscular reaction at z226 to being wounded at z190, which is what the HSCA found, doesn’t make sense. I wasn’t the one suggesting that it made sense.
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Tom was suggesting that the HSCA said the JFK’s reaction was neuromuscular. I was just saying that a neuromuscular reaction at z226 to being wounded at z190, which is what the HSCA found, doesn’t make sense. I wasn’t the one suggesting that it made sense.

But it does make sense that JFK's transverse process was traumatized / damaged by CE-399 around Z-222, and that his spaying his elbows outward and "clutching his throat" was therefore a neuromuscular reaction, not an "attempt to breathe."
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Tom was suggesting that the HSCA said the JFK’s reaction was neuromuscular. I was just saying that a neuromuscular reaction at z226 to being wounded at z190, which is what the HSCA found, doesn’t make sense. I wasn’t the one suggesting that it made sense.

You have proposed that JFK was hit by the first shot around Z193. Moving that shot 3 frames, 1/6 second, doesn't move that from absurd to reasonable.