Mary Woodward said there were 3 shots and the 1st shot missed everything

[Andrew Mason]

You seem to be of the opinion there are multiple truths and it is a multiple-choice exercise. There is only one truth of the JFKA and all other theories are simply false. Oswald was the assassin and he carried out the assassination in only one way. Once that way is determined, it is pointless to consider there are alternatives. Your scenario is simply bonkers and undeserving of serious consideration.

Tom Graves and I are in agreement that there was an early missed shot but we have a sharp disagreement as to how early that shot occurred. Since there are only clues and not definitive proof of when the first shot occurred, I can recognize that there is a possibility that he could be right and I could be wrong. I can't give your scenario that same consideration. There is no possible way you could be right

Both you and Tom think the other is wrong. I am just saying you are both right - on the other being wrong.

[Tom Graves]

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Do you think JFK's neurological "clutching at his throat" reaction was a delayed one?

[Andrew Mason]

Do you think JFK's neurological "clutching at his throat" reaction was a delayed one?

Yes. A person breathes about every 4 seconds. So there would be an initial reaction followed by a reaction to being unable to breathe when he tried to breathe. If he was hit midway between breaths, that second reaction would be about two seconds or so later. We can see the initial reaction well underway in z225 as his right hand and elbow is down from where it was two seconds earlier and his face has assumed a very odd look.  Then panic sets in at z226 and the hands go to his mouth and upper chest area, which is consistent with a choke response as one realizes they can’t breathe.

[John Corbett]

Yes. A person breathes about every 4 seconds. So there would be an initial reaction followed by a reaction to being unable to breathe when he tried to breathe. If he was hit midway between breaths, that second reaction would be about two seconds or so later. We can see the initial reaction well underway in z225 as his right hand and elbow is down from where it was two seconds earlier and his face has assumed a very odd look.  Then panic sets in at z226 and the hands go to his mouth and upper chest area, which is consistent with a choke response as one realizes they can’t breathe.

Now you've been forced to pile one more ridiculous argument onto your dumbass theory. Why do you bother? Nobody is buying it. Not the CTs. Not the LNs. You are a cult of one and that is not going to change.

[Andrew Mason]

Now you've been forced to pile one more ridiculous argument onto your dumbass theory. Why do you bother? Nobody is buying it. Not the CTs. Not the LNs.

I am saying that the truth fits the evidence.

You can try to persuade us that the truth does not fit the evidence.  You are simply wrong on that.

You are a cult of one and that is not going to change.

As you have said, the truth is not determined by a popularity contest.

[Tom Graves]

Tom Graves asked: Do you think JFK's neurological "clutching at his throat" reaction was a delayed one?

Andrew Mason replied: Yes. A person breathes about every 4 seconds. So, there would be an initial reaction followed by a reaction to being unable to breathe when he tried to breathe. If he was hit midway between breaths, that second reaction would be about two seconds or so later. We can see the initial reaction well underway in z225 as his right hand and elbow is down from where it was two seconds earlier and his face has assumed a very odd look.  Then panic sets in at z226 and the hands go to his mouth and upper chest area, which is consistent with a choke response as one realizes they can’t breathe.

Didn't the bullet (or the shock wave caused by it) nick a transverse process in JFK's lower neck?

[Andrew Mason]

Didn't the bullet (or the shock wave caused by it) nick a transverse process in JFK's lower neck?

A 2000 fps bullet is supersonic in air but not in the body. The speed of sound in the body is about 5000 fps so it subsonic.  This means that there is no shock wave, just an acoustic wave propagating rapidly away from the bullet.  A shock wave carries much more energy than an acoustic wave. A shock wave has a sudden pressure jump, moves faster than sound, and carries a huge amount of energy that can destroy things.  An acoustic wave produces much lower pressure and energy.

The notion that the bullet passing near the spine would cause not only a neurological reaction but a specific neurological reaction that results after several days in a person whose spinal cord was severed was not advanced by any neurologist.  It was advanced by someone years later who has no qualifications as a neurologist: Dr. Lattimer, a urologist. Being two letters short doesn’t make one almost a neurologist.