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Online Lance Payette

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I just posted this on another thread. Mary Woodward's excellent 2015 interview for the Sixth Floor Museum. She was highly embarrassed by her participation in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" and had thought she was participating in a serious historical BBC documentary.


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Online Lance Payette

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Re: How Mary Woodward's 11/23 article should have read
« Reply #8 on: Today at 04:51:41 PM »
There is ample evidence that is far more reliable than divergent eye and earwitness accounts, starting with the best evidence of all, Zapruder's camera. Witness accounts are not without evidentiary value but given their inherent unreliability, they must be weighed against more reliable forms of evidence to determine their value.
The formula appears to be this:

1. No one can agree on what the Z film actually shows.
2. Eyewitness and earwitness evidence is unreliable.
3. Ergo, whatever I want to think happened is what happened and you can't prove it didn't.

Isn't that about it?

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Re: How Mary Woodward's 11/23 article should have read
« Reply #9 on: Today at 05:12:58 PM »
The formula appears to be this:

1. No one can agree on what the Z film actually shows.
2. Eyewitness and earwitness evidence is unreliable.
3. Ergo, whatever I want to think happened is what happened and you can't prove it didn't.

Isn't that about it?

Not quite. I KNOW what happened. The only thing I want to think happened is what actually happened. If there were 12 gunmen shooting at JFK, that is what I would want to know happened. My only agenda is knowing the truth. And I do.

What puzzles me about the JFKA is why so many people have such a hard time figuring it out. It's really not that hard.

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"This was followed rapidly by another shot."

Why did you delete the word "rapidly" from the edited version? 

Online Lance Payette

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"This was followed rapidly by another shot."

Why did you delete the word "rapidly" from the edited version?

Good catch, Louis. In the interview that I posted, it's clear that by "rapidly" she meant "almost instantaneously."

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I just posted this on another thread. Mary Woodward's excellent 2015 interview for the Sixth Floor Museum. She was highly embarrassed by her participation in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" and had thought she was participating in a serious historical BBC documentary.


   Thanks for posting this Sixth Floor interview. You consider the interview "excellent". I consider it more along the lines of "tea-and-crumpets".
   So, Woodward was actually standing closer to the RL Thornton sign than the Stemmons Sign. She describes the JFK Limo eventually taking off, which means she was looking through the Umbrella Man and The Cuban in order to see the Kill Shot and the Limo leaving Dealey Plaza. Does Fagin ask her about seeing Umbrella Man and The Cuban, or what they were doing, what they did following the final shot? Does he point blank ask her if the JFK Limo came to a Stop? NOPE! And then, in order to smooth out the story written by Woodward immediately after the assassination, Fagin makes sure to inject into the interview that prior to writing the story that Woodward had taken a tranquillizer. That she was basically somewhat under the influence. This is why the Sixth Floor is a joke.
   I thought the taped interview of Donaldson/Atterbury was far more detailed. She claims, "the motorcycle police escort scoot ACROSS the road, and there was a PAUSE in the presidential car, and then it just SPED up and went on the other side. She is describing a JFK Limo STOP, or at the minimum a slowing down far greater than we see on the Z Film. And what police motorcycle scooted ACROSS the road prior to the JFK Limo going under the Triple Underpass. As described, what motorcycle was even in front of the JFK Limo? The only motorcycles we see in front of the JFK Limo as it speeds away are already on the other side of the Triple Underpass.

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Where exactly is Mary Woodward supposed [sic] to have been standing on the north side of Elm Street?

Dear Stormtrooper Storing,

Blond-haired Mary Woodward is circled in this Z-150 frame.

https://www.jfk.org/wp-content/uploads/Mary-Woodward-circled.jpg

Standing to the left of her is her journalism colleague, Aurelia Alonzo, and to the right of her are, from left to right, her colleagues Ann Donaldson and Maggie Brown.

In this frame, JFK has reacted to Oswald's early missing-everything shot by quickly turning his head to his left. In a few frames he will turn his head back to his right and resume looking at the spectators. Woodward, who had met JFK several times before he became president, wrote in her 11/23/63 article that they clapped and cheered to get his attention. At around Z-175, he begins to raise his arm to wave to Woodward and her colleagues. Jackie is already looking to her left in Z-150 but will turn farther to her left by Z-161 (when she is "captured" by Robert Croft), and by Z-175 will begin turning her head far to her right to smile and wave -- according to Woodward -- to Woodward and Co.) 

(Not to open a can of worms, but to the immediate right of Maggie Brown is Gloria Calvery's tallish colleague, light-colored-headscarf-wearing Karen Westbrook, who totally screwed up her interview with smilin'-and-noddin' Stephen Fagin at the Sixth Floor Museum. Westbrook mistakenly thought Calvery (the big-tall gal wearing the black blouse and the black headscarf) was the strawberry-blond gal standing "near" the Stemmons Freeway sign in the Zapruder film, and that she, Westbrook, was standing to the immediate right of her and wearing the blue headscarf. In reality, the three gals standing "by" the Stemmons sign were three colleagues at South West Publishing in the TSBD -- self-described American Indian Stella Mae Jacob, Gloria Jeanne Holt, and blue-headscarf-wearing Sharon Simmons.)

-- Tom 
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