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Online John Corbett

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Re: Dr. Gary Aguilar's Two-Shot Analysis
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 11:38:33 PM »
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I largely concur with your sentiments. In fact, many associated with the EF-JFKA have died off, and the remaining often reminisce about the 1960s, which is still the defining decade in all history, in their view.

Like Larry Hancock, I conclude the WC and FBI generally followed President LBJ's instructions that nothing be found out about the JFKA that could trigger a nuke war. That is to say, no leads back to Havana or Moscow.

That may seem farfetched today, but in 1962 the US very nearly went to a nuke war with Russia over Cuba. LBJ, like everybody else, lived with the daily specter of A-bombs from the sky in October 1962 (as did myself).

Due to my read of the Z-film, I contend that the cadence of shots cannot be explained by a lone gunsel armed with a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle.

I suspect LHO was the TSBD shooter, but there had to be another shooter too.

The conspiracy could be that, only two people.

LHO was dead with 48 hours, and his confederate---who knows?

If LHO's confederate was waxed by G2-DGI, dead men tell no tales. And the people waxing the second gunsel did not know why they perped the deed, or they were misinformed.

Indeed, G2-DGI'ers may have suspected one of their assets went rogue and worked with LHO, and so they then waxed that asset, based on a reasonable suspicion. 

One sad aspect of this: Moscow and IRGC $ has warped JFKA narratives, as understood by many.

If you have credible evidence that Oswald had one or more confederates, please provide that. Otherwise, you're just blowing smoke.

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Re: Dr. Gary Aguilar's Two-Shot Analysis
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Online Jarrett Smith

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Re: Dr. Gary Aguilar's Two-Shot Analysis
« Reply #8 on: Today at 12:46:53 AM »
Dr. Gary Aguilar gives his view of two shots striking JFK on 11.22, including one shot from the GK.

Aguilar is obviously intelligent, literate and informed on topic.

Interesting presentation, whether one agrees or not.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.


The issue I have is the first shot at Z313 they have from the knoll, but we know for a fact his head is pushed forward first before going backwards. They are using the acoustics evidence which is wrong.

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Re: Dr. Gary Aguilar's Two-Shot Analysis
« Reply #9 on: Today at 02:08:19 AM »
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I could never make heads or tails of any of the acoustics evidence.

I have looked at Z-film more times than I could ever want.

Gov. JBC is pushed forward ~Z-295, and JFK is shot Z-313.

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

The above happens about ~Z-295.

In the Z-film, it sure looks like JFK's head is reacting to a shot from the GK. But who knows? Maybe there is a "carom effect" from a rear shot in combo with a back brace.

The "bang....bang-bang" cadence heard on 11.22 tends to rule out a lone gunsel armed with a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle.

I have reasonable doubts LHO acted alone.

 

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Re: Dr. Gary Aguilar's Two-Shot Analysis
« Reply #10 on: Today at 12:55:51 PM »
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I could never make heads or tails of any of the acoustics evidence.

Of course you couldn't. This "evidence" is not a recording of the shooting in Dealey Plaza.
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I have looked at Z-film more times than I could ever want.

Gov. JBC is pushed forward ~Z-295, and JFK is shot Z-313.

Now you are just imagining things.
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Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

The above happens about ~Z-295.

Not it doesn't. It happens much early, in the Z230s. That followed his sudden arm flip beginning at Z226.
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In the Z-film, it sure looks like JFK's head is reacting to a shot from the GK. But who knows? Maybe there is a "carom effect" from a rear shot in combo with a back brace.

The "bang....bang-bang" cadence heard on 11.22 tends to rule out a lone gunsel armed with a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle.

I have reasonable doubts LHO acted alone.

Nobody cares about your doubts, reasonable or unreasonable. They have nothing to do with what happened in Dealey Plaza onn 11/22/1963.

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« Reply #11 on: Today at 01:52:48 PM »
If you have credible evidence that Oswald had one or more confederates, please provide that. Otherwise, you're just blowing smoke.
I don't know who fired the shots but there was more than one shooter and it can be proven. Arlen Specter came up with the single shot theory not just by chance but because in the time period they had which was about six seconds, four shots cannot be fired. They tried and the most you can do with the Carcano is three shots. All of which the Warren commission accounted for. The Tague bullet, the neck shot which according to the WC also went through Connally and the head shot. The problem is the testimony of Nell and John Connally which never changed actually stated that Kennedy was hit in the neck first then two seconds later Connally was struck.
Here the two are interviewed in 1988:-
And here in at 2:25 into this video in 1966 Connally states the same. This means there has to be fours shots and two shooters. Now we have Tague bullet, Kennedy neck, Connally then Kennedy head shot.


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Re: Dr. Gary Aguilar's Two-Shot Analysis
« Reply #12 on: Today at 02:23:41 PM »
Dr. Gary Aguilar gives his view of two shots striking JFK on 11.22, including one shot from the GK.

Aguilar is obviously intelligent, literate and informed on topic.

Interesting presentation, whether one agrees or not.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.

And, as neuroanatomist Dr. Joseph Riley documented, there are two separate, unconnected wound paths in JFK's brain -- one is cortical and the other is sub-cortical.

You also have the fact that you have fragments on the JFK autopsy skull x-rays that are far removed from any other fragments. For example, the 7 x 2 mm and 3 x 1 mm fragments above and just behind the right orbit are well forward of the right-frontal fragment cluster that forms part of the high fragment trail, and that fragment cluster starts with tiny particles and progresses rearward with larger (though still relatively small) fragments, indicating, according to everything we know from ballistics and physics, that the bullet hit the right-frontal region. The heavier the fragments, the farther they will travel.

Dr. Michael Chesser, a neurologist who was allowed to view the autopsy materials at the National Archives, explains this while discussing the same right-frontal entry wound that Dr. David Mantik has identified:

This is what I saw on the original right lateral skull x-ray at the archives. There is a gap in the bone -- not very big, maybe 3 mm, but remember that this is a composite of all the material between the x-ray machine and the film—when viewed from the side, a hole in the frontal bone may not be seen at all, and if it is, it won’t appear as wide as its actual width. I think that this defect is probably due to a combination of an entry wound and associated radial fracture line(s).   

The most important finding here is the proximity of these tiny metallic fragments to this bone defect. This location, on the intracranial side of the bony defect, is highly suggestive of an entry wound. One of the principles of skull ballistics is that the largest fragments travel the farthest from the entry site, with the smallest fragments traveling the least distance, and that is exactly what is seen on this right lateral skull x-ray. Tiny fragments were seen on the inner side of this right front skull defect, and the largest fragments were noted in the back of the skull.

When you look at the x-rays that are stored at the archives now, on the lateral x-ray there is a fragment trail. It actually expands from front to back, and there are dozens of very tiny dustlike fragment particles up in this location.

Dr. David Mantik: Now why is that important? Well, what we know is that the larger bullet fragments travel farther, whereas the smaller ones tend to stay near the entry site. That’s what we see on these x-rays. In other words, we can reasonably interpret these as being consistent with a frontal bullet, but being radically inconsistent with a posterior bullet. . . .

Kinetic energy explains why larger fragments travel farther than smaller fragments. Kinetic energy = 1/2 mv2, where m = mass and v = velocity. Thus, a particle with more mass has more kinetic energy. Besides that, though, smaller fragments decelerate faster—the drag forces on them are relatively greater. Hence, the tiny particles near the forehead suggest an entry near that site. The larger fragment at the right rear provides additional evidence for a frontal entry. As expected, larger fragments travel farther. (In Mantik, The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: The Final Analysis, 2024, pp. 192-194)

Also, the two fragments near the right-orbit are much larger than the dozens of fragment particles in the forward part of the high fragment trail and are at least 1 inch forward of the particles. Dr. Mantik believes these two fragments are the remnants of the low fragment trail described in the autopsy report. The autopsy report says the low fragment trail ended near the supraorbital ridge, which is the upper part of the right orbit, so those two fragments are exactly where they should be if they're the remnant of the low fragment trail.

WC defenders, amazingly, simply ignore the fact that the current skull x-rays do not show the EOP-to-right-orbit fragment trail described in the autopsy report. The only fragment trail on the extant skull x-rays is some 4 inches higher, i.e., the high fragment trail, which includes the right-frontal cloud of about 30 tiny particles near the entry site identified by Drs. Mantik, Chesser, Henkelmann, Aguilar, Wecht, Robertson, DeSalles, and others.

Either the low fragment trail was removed from the x-rays in order to buttress the case for the 4-inch upward relocation of the rear head entry wound or Humes, Boswell, Finck, and Ebersole were so unbelievably incompetent that they mistook the high fragment trail for a trail that started some 4 inches lower and that ended at a spot well forward of the high fragment trail. It is hard to imagine a first-year medical student making such an unbelievable blunder, especially given the fact that the three autopsy doctors reviewed the autopsy materials in 1966 and reaffirmed the EOP entry location.


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Re: Dr. Gary Aguilar's Two-Shot Analysis
« Reply #13 on: Today at 02:27:42 PM »
I don't know who fired the shots but there was more than one shooter and it can be proven. Arlen Specter came up with the single shot theory not just by chance but because in the time period they had which was about six seconds, four shots cannot be fired. They tried and the most you can do with the Carcano is three shots. All of which the Warren commission accounted for. The Tague bullet, the neck shot which according to the WC also went through Connally and the head shot. The problem is the testimony of Nell and John Connally which never changed actually stated that Kennedy was hit in the neck first then two seconds later Connally was struck.
Here the two are interviewed in 1988:-
And here in at 2:25 into this video in 1966 Connally states the same. This means there has to be fours shots and two shooters. Now we have Tague bullet, Kennedy neck, Connally then Kennedy head shot.

When I read this, I feel like I'm in a time warp and I've traveled back to 1991.

Where did you get the idea that Oswald only had 6 seconds to fire 3 shots. Was it from Josiah Thompson's lame book Six Seconds in Dallas? The WC never concluded 3 shots were fired in 6 seconds, only that it was a theoretical possibility. 3 shots in under 6 seconds is only necessary if one believes the second shot was the missed shot. There is a general consensus among lone assassin proponents that the first shot was the missed shot. This gives Oswald at least 8 seconds to fire the three shots and some have hypothesized 10-11 seconds. Without definitive proof of exactly when Oswald fired that first missed shot, we can't really say how long it took him to fire all 3 shots. What we can be fairly certain of is that there was almost 5 seconds between the two shots that hit JFK.

The single bullet was a product of the Secret Service recreations which showed at the time JFK was shot in the back, JBC was directly in line to be hit by the bullet that exited from JFK's throat. Such a bullet could hardly have missed him. There are no eyewitnesses to a second shooter. There is no photographic evidence of a second shooter. There is no medical evidence of a second shooter. There is no ballistic evidence of a second shooter. The three recovered shells and the only two recovered bullets were positively matched to Oswald's Carcano rifle to the exclusion of all other weapons in the world. It is a mortal lock that Oswald fired the shots that killed JFK. There is zero credible evidence he had even a single accomplice.

As for the Connallys, Nellie Connally is probably one of the worst witnesses we have. Nothing she said she saw is supported by the Z-film. John Connally was sure of one thing. He had been hit by the second bullet. He had no way of knowing whether JFK had been hit by the first or second shot. For some reason he had been led to believe that JFK had been hit by the first which is why he rejected the SBT. The reality is that both men were hit by the second shot.
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