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Online Jarrett Smith

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Re: Does it really matter who killed JFK?
« Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 03:29:04 PM »
Clint Hill was running toward the limo before the headshot. Because the limo was moving forward, there wasn't much closing speed, but he was already in motion.

Although he was told differently, the only shot he heard while running was the headshot. He said the shot had a metallic sound which indicates to me one of the sounds he heard was a fragment striking the windshield frame.

To the best of my recollection, he was telling his story at the Sixth Floor Museum but I will have to find that program to verify it.

Sorry, but that just isn't true. You can watch both the Nix and Muchmore films. There was a shot after Z-313 that Oswald could not have fired. 

Online John Corbett

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Re: Does it really matter who killed JFK?
« Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 04:16:12 PM »
Sorry, but that just isn't true. You can watch both the Nix and Muchmore films. There was a shot after Z-313 that Oswald could not have fired.

Nonsense!

Online Tom Scully

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Re: Does it really matter who killed JFK?
« Reply #30 on: Yesterday at 08:13:48 PM »
Clint Hill was running toward the limo before the headshot. Because the limo was moving forward, there wasn't much closing speed, but he was already in motion.

Although he was told differently, the only shot he heard while running was the headshot. He said the shot had a metallic sound which indicates to me one of the sounds he heard was a fragment striking the windshield frame.

To the best of my recollection, he was telling his story at the Sixth Floor Museum but I will have to find that program to verify it.

Why no "covering fire" supporting Hill running in the direction of where at least one shot had hit, even if his fellow agents in the following "Queen Mary" had just fired into the
air, above the general direction where photos captured some of them craning their necks towards? Or, were they just too hung over from the night before?
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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Does it really matter who killed JFK?
« Reply #31 on: Yesterday at 08:19:46 PM »
Why no "covering fire" supporting Hill running in the direction of where at least one shot had hit, even if his fellow agents in the following "Queen Mary" had just fired into the air, above the general direction where photos captured some of them craning their necks towards? Or, were they just too hung over from the night before?

Don't be silly, Tom-Tom.
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Online Tom Scully

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Re: Does it really matter who killed JFK?
« Reply #32 on: Yesterday at 09:17:57 PM »
Don't be silly, Tom-Tom.

Do you find it interesting that Joannides took the place of Bill Nelson's wedding usher,, Philip Franklin Fendig, as CIA liason to the HSCA investigation?
Fendig's best man was Bill Nelson.... :
https://www.nytimes.com/1953/05/17/archives/miss-c-johnston-is-wed-in-capital-has-2-attendants-at-marriage-to.html

Shackley "introduces" Fendig to HSCA,
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=100555#relPageId=2


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https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cloak_Gown/a3ncweUli9UC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=angleton+william+nelson&pg=PA403&printsec=frontcover
loak & Gown: Scholars in the Secret War, 1939-1961 - Page 403
books.google.com › books
Robin W. Winks · 1996
Found inside – Page 403
... William Nelson , the deputy di- rector for operations , that set out all the circumstantial evidence to make the case that Angleton was a Soviet agent . That Angleton had not spotted Philby , or having spotted him had not turned him in ...

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Does it really matter who killed JFK?
« Reply #33 on: Yesterday at 11:40:41 PM »
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Dear Tom "A Beautiful Mind" Skully,

Do you find it interesting that in April of 1964, probable KGB "mole" Bruce Solie (father-figure-requiring James Angleton's confidant, mentor, and mole-hunting superior) tried to talk W. David Slawson into letting Yuri "The KGB Had Nothing To Do With Oswald In The USSR" Nosenko testify to the Warren Commission even though CIA Counterintelligence and the Soviet Russia Division were convinced he'd been a false-defector-in-place in Geneva in June 1962, sent to the CIA there to protect a mole or two or three from being uncovered by recent true defector Anatoly Golitsyn's revelations?

Do you find it interesting that KGB Major Aleksey Kulak (J. Edgar Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA at the FBI's NYC field office) had to lamely retract his two specific "confirmations" that Nosenko was a true physical defector to the U.S. when Nosenko admitted during interrogation to having lied about those two things (i.e., his now being a "Lieutenant Colonel" and his having received a "return to Moscow immediately" telegram in Geneva in February 1964)?

Do you find it interesting that Solie "cleared" Nosenko in October 1968 via a bogus polygraph exam and a specious report?

Do you find it interesting that Solie hid CIA documents from the Church Committee and the HSCA?

-- Tom
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