Does it really matter who killed JFK?

[Brian Doyle]

Richard Case Nagel shows that KGB had nothing to do with it...

[Benjamin Cole]

BD-

I don't place a lot of faith in Nagell, but didn't he say LHO had been sent by Moscow to perp the JFKA, but they called off the mission, but LHO refused to end the assignment?

James Woolsey, former CIA director, has a similar narrative, that LHO was programmed in Russia. 

[Brian Doyle]

Extrapolate the Armstrong template and it is really all you need outside of the spy vs spy bs that was designed to confuse the issue...

[John Corbett]

Which Oswald? Harvey or Lee? The Bolton Ford Oswald, or the Lincoln Mercury Oswald? The Oswald who was with Marita Lorenz on a Caravan to Dallas, or the Oswald who worked with Judyth Baker to kill Castro with cancer? The Oswald Thornley knew, or the Oswald Titovets knew? Or the Oswald who took Russia-lessons given to him in Minsk by the late head of state of Belarus Stanislav Stanislavovich Shushkevich? Choose. 

I know of only one Oswald who shot killed JFK on 11/22/1963. He killed a cop that same day.

[Michael T. Griffith]

Does it really matter who killed JFK?

It seems to me that the really important thing is that the Kremlin and its KGB (today's SVR and FSB) have "made hay" from the anomaly-replete assassination literally since Day One, when some Kremlin functionaries told Morris Childs, one of the FBI's SOLO brothers who couriered $28 million from the Kremlin to the CPUSA over twenty years and who just happened to be at the Kremlin around midnight on 11/22/63, that the KGB had nothing to do with former Marine sharpshooter and U-2 radar operator Lee Harvey Oswald during the two-and-a-half years he lived in the USSR.

Three-and-a-half years later, the KGB planted an anti-CIA/anti-Clay Shaw article in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper three days after over-ambitious, scandal-plagued, and revengeful New Orleans D.A. Jim Garrison had arrested the New Orleans businessman on suspicion of having masterminded a Loeb-and-Leopold-like homosexual thrill-kill assassination. The article was picked up by a far-left French newspaper, translated into English and given to Garrison by Bertrand Russell’s far-left secretary, Ralph Schoenman, and motivated Garrison to change his theory against Shaw to "He organized it for the CIA!"

Factoid:

In his 1989 book, "On the Trail of the Assassins" — which Oliver Stone integrated into his self-described mythological (“to counter the myth of the Warren Report”) film, “JFK,” Garrison lied when he said he didn't read the article until after the 1969 trial (which the jury decided against him in less than an hour). We know that he lied, though, because his assistant, Life magazine’s Richard Billings, wrote in his diary in mid-March 1967 that Garrison had received said article and was beginning to believe the CIA was behind the assassination.

Has it occurred to you that the KGB knew of evidence that rogue elements of the CIA played a role in the JFK assassination and decided to try to get this information to the American people to counter the common belief that Oswald acted on behalf of the Soviets and/or their Cuban proxies?

If Richard Case Nagell was telling the truth, and there are good reasons to believe he was mostly truthful, then the KGB knew about the assassination plot before JFK was killed and tried to prevent it because they feared right-wingers in the U.S. Government would use it to persuade the government to start WWIII with the Soviets and/or the Cubans.

[Tom Graves]

Has it occurred to you that the KGB knew of evidence that rogue elements of the CIA played a role in the JFK assassination and decided to try to get this information to the American people to counter the common belief that Oswald acted on behalf of the Soviets and/or their Cuban proxies?

If Richard Case Nagell was telling the truth, and there are good reasons to believe he was mostly truthful, then the KGB knew about the assassination plot before JFK was killed and tried to prevent it because they feared right-wingers in the U.S. Government would use it to persuade the government to start WWIII with the Soviets and/or the Cubans.

Dear Michael "Useful Idiot Or Worse" Griffith,

John M. Newman, whom you probably idolized in 2008 when he was preaching, in the epilogue of his revised edition of Oswald and the CIA, that evil, evil James Angleton masterminded the JFK assassination, now says that Angleton's confidant, mentor, and mole-hunting superior, Bruce Leonard Solie in the Office of Security, was a KGB "mole" and that he sent former Marine sharpshooter and U-2 radar operator Oswald to Moscow in 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a (unbeknownst to Angleton and Oswald) planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA.

Which ties in with what Nagell said.

Just substitute Bruce Leonard Solie (and Nosenko-defending Leonard V. McCoy and Russia-born Nosenko-defender George Kisevalter?) for "rogue elements of the CIA."

-- Tom

PS In October 1968, Solie "cleared" false-defector-in-place-in-Geneva-in-June-1962 / false (or perhaps rogue) physical defector to the U.S. in February, 1964 Yuri "The KGB Had Nothing To Do With Oswald In The USSR!", Nosenko via a bogus polygraph exam and a specious report, and from June 1966 to December 1975 he was instrumental in the Igor Kochnov (KITTY HAWK) case which ended tragically when former defector Nicholas Shadrin (formerly Nikolas Artamonov) was kidnapped by the KGB in Vienna, and from 1975 to 1978 he hid CIA documents from the Church Committee and the HSCA.

[Jarrett Smith]

They didn't fire any shots that day, but the Secret Service killed him through incompetence.

"After the shooting, one of the secret service men sitting down in the car in front of us pulled out an automatic rifle or weapon and looked backward. However, all of the secret service men seemed to me to respond very slowly, with no more than a puzzled look. In fact, until the automatic weapon was uncovered, I had been lulled into a sense of false hope for the President's safety, by the lack of motion, excitement, or apparent visible knowledge by the secret service men, that anything so dreadful was happening. Knowing something of the training that combat infantrymen and Marines receive, I am amazed at the lack of instantaneous response by the Secret Service, when the rifle fire began. I make this statement in this paragraph reluctantly, not to add to the anguish of anyone, but it is my firm opinion, and I write it out in the hope that it might be of service in the better protection of our Presidents in the future" Ralph W. Yarborough