How Mrs. Connally Described Her Husband Being Shot-HSCA

[Tom Graves]

The Warren Commission said it was "not probable" that the shot to the back occurred "before Z210." (Not probable being another way to say "not impossible").

Dear FPR,

It's not impossible that [fill in the blank].

-- Tom

[John Corbett]

AM--

Thanks for your inquiry.

Well, more or less Greer's narrative lines up with the Connallys, if I understand it correctly.

Mrs. Connally's narrative supports the "first shot hit JFK, the second hit JBC, and third hit JFK." The Connallys have been solid on that from Day One. They are not lefties, or KGB assets, and appear to have no axes to grind. They are just calling a spade a spade.

What Mrs. JBC meant by the word "recoil" is hard to say, but likely that was JBC doubling over from the shot that struck him, which happens ~Z-295.

BTW, JBC getting shot ~Z-295 lines up neatly with the many witnesses who described a "bang....bang-bang" cadence of shots on 11.22.

Nothing in the Z-file indicates either of the Connallys were looking at JFK when either the first or second shot was fired so how could either know which bullet struck him?

JBC not being shot until Z295 doesn't remotely line up with anything in the Z-film. It's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen proposed regarding the JFKA.

[Benjamin Cole]

Andrew Mason: Thanks for your collegial inquiry.

I have looked at the Z-film a thousand times, and frame by frame.

I am a layman, though I am not sure there is such a thing as an "expert" at looking at blurry home movies and divining the moment of impact of a bullet on a body. Each to his own.

Another bit of Mrs. Connally's testimony, again indicating JBC was pushed forward at the moment he was struck from behind by a large slug, that tunneled along a rib, meeting resistance, and pushing his body forward.



As I see it, JBC lunge or is pushed forward ~Z-295.

The LNT-SBT theorizing evolved in response to President LBJ's diktat that LHO be found a LN with no leads to Havana or Moscow (no nuke war please), and the WC's subsequent necessity in making the evidence line up with that premise.

There were three loud shots heard deep inside the TSBD on 11.22, and that indicates there was in fact a TSBD6 sniper who fired three shots. Prime suspect is LHO.

The problem is the shot cadence---the shots that strike JBC and JFK are too close together to have been fired by a lone gunsel armed with a single-shot bolt action rifle. The "bang....bang-bang" cadence. Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman described the last two shots as nearly "simultaneous." A man with much experience in firearms.

There is the possibility of simultaneous shots heard as one shot on 11.22, or of someone firing using a silencer.

[Benjamin Cole]

LP--

Well...nearly every bit of evidence in the entire JFKA saga, including the Tippit angle, is one big Rorshach test.

However, I am divinely inspired, and thus correct in my conclusions on the JFKA.

[Andrew Mason]

Another bit of Mrs. Connally's testimony, again indicating JBC was pushed forward at the moment he was struck from behind by a large slug, that tunneled along a rib, meeting resistance, and pushing his body forward.



As I see it, JBC lunge or is pushed forward ~Z-295

That is helpful to have that testimony from Nellie Connally.  She provides a time for the sound of the second shot: at the moment she shopped looking at JFK and turned to look at JBC. Where do you see that occurring? She says that JBC moved or “lunged” forward.  Greer said he turned to the rear almost simultaneously with hearing the second shot and Hickey said JFK’s hair flew up on the second shot.  Where do you see those things occurring?  I may be wacko in my thinking according to some on this board, but I would suggest that if all these things can be seen within a few frames of each other that would be good evidence of when the second shot occurred.

The LNT-SBT theorizing evolved in response to President LBJ's diktat that LHO be found a LN with no leads to Havana or Moscow (no nuke war please), and the WC's subsequent necessity in making the evidence line up with that premise.

There were three loud shots heard deep inside the TSBD on 11.22, and that indicates there was in fact a TSBD6 sniper who fired three shots. Prime suspect is LHO.

The problem is the shot cadence---the shots that strike JBC and JFK are too close together to have been fired by a lone gunsel armed with a single-shot bolt action rifle. The "bang....bang-bang" cadence. Dallas Sheriff Seymour Weitzman described the last two shots as nearly "simultaneous." A man with much experience in firearms.

I agree that the evidence is very strong that the last two were closer together and in rapid succession. But that does not tell us whether they were too close to have been fired from a bolt action rifle.  That’s really the issue. Locating the time of the second shot based on the evidence, not speculation, is the way to resolve that question, in my opinion. What’s your view?

[Benjamin Cole]

AM--

Thanks for your collegial inquiry.

Well, again, my layman's view is that Gov. JBC is pushed forward ~Z-295. Maybe a few frames later, and he falls into his wife's lap about the time JFK is struck.

There is a consensus that JFK is struck at Z-313.

IMHO, the JBC-JFK strikes are less than one second apart (18 fps) and that lines up with Seymour Weitzman's testimony that the last two audible shots on 11.22 were nearly simultaneous. SS agent Kellerman described the last two audible shots as a "flurry."

LHO had a single-shot-per-bolt-action rifle. LHO was a good shot, and maybe he got lucky that day. The M-L short rifle was built to solid military specs, accurate to 200 meters.

But I don't see how LHO fired rapidly enough to be a lone assassin.

[Andrew Mason]

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Well, again, my layman's view is that Gov. JBC is pushed forward ~Z-295. Maybe a few frames later, and he falls into his wife's lap about the time JFK is struck.

But when does Nellie stop looking at JFK and turn to look at her husband? That is where she put the second shot.

I am not sure what motion you are referring to at z295. Can you elaborate?

How about the motion of JBC just before he falls back on his wife?:

There is a consensus that JFK is struck at Z-313.

IMHO, the JBC-JFK strikes are less than one second apart (18 fps) and that lines up with Seymour Weitzman's testimony that the last two audible shots on 11.22 were nearly simultaneous. SS agent Kellerman described the last two audible shots as a "flurry."

Most witnesses described distinct shots and many estimated that the space between the last two was about half that between 1 and 2.