How Mrs. Connally Described Her Husband Being Shot-HSCA

[Andrew Mason]

SB-

My view:

Well, sure Mrs JBC did not see Gov. JBC being shot at ~Z-221, as he was not shot then.

JBC was shot ~Z-295, maybe even a few frames later.

Just IMHO.

What do you make of the following:
1. Greer’s statement and testimony that he made his first of two turns to the rear almost simultaneously with hearing the second shot and saw JBC falling back.  He begins that turn a few frames before z281.
2. Hickey’s observation that the second shot did not appear to hit JFK as he just saw the hair on the right side of his head fly up.
3. Nellie’s statement that JBC recoiled form the second shot and she reached out and pulled down on her lap.

[Steve Barber]

SB-

My view:

Well, sure Mrs JBC did not see Gov. JBC being shot at ~Z-221, as he was not shot then.

JBC was shot ~Z-295, maybe even a few frames later.

Just IMHO.

 I didn't say anything about Z-221!  Read my comment again, she is looking straight ahead in frames 225 and 226. And JBC was wounded at the same time JFK was shot as the Zapruder film clearly reveals..  You have a lot of explaining to do if you actually believe he wasn't hit until Z-295 or later!

[Steve Barber]

This is just silly. Of course she wasn't looking at him in Z225-226, because he wasn't hit yet. Sheesh, how long are you guys going to bury your heads in the sand and ignore the fact that Connally himself, the guy who actually experienced the wounding, identified Z234 as the moment of impact, after carefully studying high-quality color prints of the relevant frames under high magnification? His identification of Z234 as the moment of impact dovetails perfectly with what forensic science tells us about how long it would have taken for his shoulder to be driven downward, for the air forced from his lungs to cause his cheeks to puff, and for a pained expression to appear on his face.

But you guys have to ignore this plain, obvious evidence because it destroys your SBT fantasy.

 You're the one who has his head buried in the sand, Griffith.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

You're the one who has his head buried in the sand, Griffith.

As you know, the Connally's both said they heard/felt three shots - JBC heard two and said he was hit by a third. Mrs. Connally said she heard three.

Not four, not five, not six.

And both said the shots came from behind them. Including the one that hit JFK in the head. From behind. Not in front, not from the fence, not from the overpass.

Griffith doesn't believe any of this. But he suddenly believes them when it suits his conspiracy claims.

Of course, he also says the Zapruder film was faked, altered and is unreliable. But suddenly when it supports his beliefs it becomes reliable.

[Benjamin Cole]

AM--

Thanks for your inquiry.

Well, more or less Greer's narrative lines up with the Connallys, if I understand it correctly.

Mrs. Connally's narrative supports the "first shot hit JFK, the second hit JBC, and third hit JFK." The Connallys have been solid on that from Day One. They are not lefties, or KGB assets, and appear to have no axes to grind. They are just calling a spade a spade.

What Mrs. JBC meant by the word "recoil" is hard to say, but likely that was JBC doubling over from the shot that struck him, which happens ~Z-295.

BTW, JBC getting shot ~Z-295 lines up neatly with the many witnesses who described a "bang....bang-bang" cadence of shots on 11.22.

[Andrew Mason]

AM--

Thanks for your inquiry.

Well, more or less Greer's narrative lines up with the Connallys, if I understand it correctly.

Mrs. Connally's narrative supports the "first shot hit JFK, the second hit JBC, and third hit JFK." The Connallys have been solid on that from Day One. They are not lefties, or KGB assets, and appear to have no axes to grind. They are just calling a spade a spade.

What Mrs. JBC meant by the word "recoil" is hard to say, but likely that was JBC doubling over from the shot that struck him, which happens ~Z-295.

BTW, JBC getting shot ~Z-295 lines up neatly with the many witnesses who described a "bang....bang-bang" cadence of shots on 11.22.

Your shot times are a much better fit with the evidence than the first-shot-miss SBT, but I would suggest that your z295 second shot is too late. JBC has already fallen back onto Nellie. Greer has already completed his turn to the rear and has turned forward.  I don’t see any hair flying up on JFK’s right side around there either.

As far as “recoil” is concerned, that is normally a term used to describe momentum imparted by a force. JBC described a significant impact from the bullet hitting him. Do you see any movement at all in that z250-z295 area?

[Lance Payette]

We have estimates of the supposed first shot ocurring "not at all" and at umpteen different places after the turn into Elm. The Warren Commission said it was "not probable" that the shot to the back occurred "before Z210." (Not probable being another way to say "not impossible"). The HSCA: "Taken together with other evidence, the photographic and acoustical evidence led the committee to conclude that President Kennedy and Governor Connally were struck by one bullet at approximately Zapruder frame 190." The FBI said from the get-go and in its final report that JFK had been hit by two shots and JBC by a different third shot, and the Secret Service concurred. John Orr, Josiah Thompson and apparently the three Parkland doctors who treated JBC have him being struck around Z236. JBC himself seems like an extremely credible witness, yet he counts for nothing. As with so many aspects of the JFKA, this sounds suspiciously more like a Rorshach test than an objective analysis. How much of when people think JFK and JBC were hit is agenda-driven?