Which Six Books Would You Recommend to a Newcomer?

[Tom Graves]

Tommy, have you forgotten that, according to the 1930 census, a future CIA officer, Talbot Bielefeldt, reporting to Bruce Solie, was residing in NYC with Ruth's  parents.  We'll let Bruce Solie explain it, in his own words.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=162099#relPageId=1

I became aware of this memo several years ago.

Question: does this prove that Russophile Ruthie was an agent of the evil, evil CIA?

[Tom Scully]

I became aware of this memo several years ago.

Question: does this prove that Russophile Ruthie was an agent of the evil, evil CIA?

More from Solie....
https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2022/104-10051-10096.pdf



Ruthie, CIA? It is possible, but Priscilla is more entertaining.

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/19058-questions-for-peter-janney-on-his-book-mary%E2%80%99s-mosaic/page/4/
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Oswald and the CIA: The Documented Truth about the Unknown ... - Google Books Result

books.google.com/books?isbn=1602392536... John Newman - 2008 - Biography & Autobiography - 669 pages
... One new lead comes from a heretofore unconnected recollection of Priscilla's. It concerns a neighbor, who was a close friend and regular tennis partner of Stuart Johnson's, Priscilla's father. Sometime soon after her return from the Soviet Union, this friend asked Stuart if he might speak with Priscilla about her experiences in Moscow. The meeting took place, and Priscilla told the man what she could remember about her stay in Moscow. That man, who had known her since she was a small child, was F. Trubee Davidson. He worked for the CIA.9

Looking back on her experience now, Priscilla believes it is possi ble that Davidson "was waiting for me to grow up to recruit me." It is an intriguing thought, and one that she has had about one other person too. "The other person who was waiting for me to grow up," she recalls, "was Cord Meyer." While we do not know the extent of Cord Meyer's knowledge or interest in Johnson up to the time that the CIA closed out its interest in her in January 1957, he does show up the next time they become interested.

More than a year after this close-out, the CIA again reopened its interest in Priscilla Johnson. On April 10, 1958, CIA headquarters sent a cable to a place that is still classified but which, from all indications, was one of its stations in Western Europe. It contained this detailed and condescending description of Johnson referred to earlier. It is worth repeating in full:

[Tom Graves]

"Priscilla may have been an evil, evil CIA agent." (paraphrased)

Priscilla Johnson checked in with CIA SR/10 "Legal Travelers" Chief, Army MAJOR Alexander "Sasha" Sogolow, in Frankfurt while on her way to, or coming home from, Moscow in 1956.

Sogolow was the KGB mole whom false defector Yuri Nosenko kinda alluded to when he told Tennent H. Bagley and (probable mole) George Kisevalter in Geneva in January-February 1964 that there was an Army CAPTAIN in West Germany who was spying for the KGB, and he was the CIA boss of Igor Orlov/ Alexander "Sasha" Kopatzky, aka Anatoly Golitsyn's mole, SASHA, in Germany.

Bagley says in his 2007 book, "Spy Wars" (which you can read for free by googling "spy wars" and "archive" simultaneously), that the CIA didn't follow up on this "lead" because U.S. Army Captains in Germany were a-dime-a-dozen.

We learn from Newton S. Miler in David Wise's book, "Molehunt," that Sogolow confessed in the 1960s, wasn't prosecuted, and was "played back" against the KGB for a few years.

Igor Orlov/Alexander Kopatzky was "uncovered" by probable mole Bruce Solie in 1966, five years after Orlov had retired from the CIA, and did so based on a "tip" from Kremlin-loyal triple agent Igor Kochnov (KITTY HAWK). Look him up. He's the guy whose mother-in-law, Yekaterina Furtseva, allegedly overrode Nosenko and allowed Oswald to stay in the USSR.

I could go on and on, but that's enough for now.

Hopefully, one of these days you'll tell us about the man with the Slavic surname who was living with the Solie family on their dairy farm when future probable mole, Bruce, was an impressionable lad.

[Bill Brown]

I overlooked the parts regarding Jack Ruby and the fact that the Dallas Police Department allowed their prime suspect to get lynched. It always troubled me that Ruby was allowed to be in the parking garage during the 'aborted transfer' of Oswald, that not a single police official recognized him and told him to leave. It is most unfortunate. A trial could have provided many answers.

The simple fact that Ruby was not yet recognized by anyone is very good evidence, to me anyway, that he had only been in the basement for a very short time (two minutes at the most) before Oswald was led out, i.e. there wasn't enough time for anyone who may have known him to even see him.

[Michael T. Griffith]

I will attempt to answer this seriously, without descending into the pathetically juvenile silliness that all too often characterizes my self-amusing contributions.

We appreciate your candor.

OSWALD'S GAME - Jean Davison
MARINA AND LEE - Priscilla Johnson McMillan
OSWALD'S TALE - Norman Mailer
OSWALD: RUSSIAN EPISODE - Ernst Titovets
LEGEND - Edward Jay Epstein

Well, your list is actually the most balanced list of the lists submitted by WC apologists in this thread. You deserve credit for including Titovets' book in your list. Epstein's book argues for Oswald's guilt but allows that Oswald may have acted in concert with, or at the behest of, the Soviets. You were the only WC defender who could muster up enough objectivity to at least include one anti-WC/pro-Oswald book in your list.

[Lance Payette]

We appreciate your candor.

Well, your list is actually the most balanced list of the lists submitted by WC apologists in this thread. You deserve credit for including Titovets' book in your list. Epstein's book argues for Oswald's guilt but allows that Oswald may have acted in concert with, or at the behest of, the Soviets. You were the only WC defender who could muster up enough objectivity to at least include one anti-WC/pro-Oswald book in your list.

In post #44, the Supposed WC Apologist enthusiastically recommended Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why, to wit:

Now that I'm rereading it, I cannot believe that no one has mentioned Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why by Gerald McKnight. McKnight was a serious academic, and this book is widely regarded as one of the two or three absolute best CT tomes. McKnight doesn't go off on any wild CT tangents but simply provides a pretty devastating alternative perspective on the WC and the events swirling around it.

What makes JFKA discussions tedious and unproductive is that virtually everyone is a one-dimensional quasi-religious fanatic who has planted his flag in the LN narrative or some CT alternative and feels compelled to demonize anyone who declines to join his church. Hence, one who is by no means a WC Apologist must be characterized as such so this convenient strawman may be demonized. The JFKA community on both sides simply cannot deal with someone who refuses to be pigeonholed because he has no great emotional involvment in JFK or who killed him. The dynamics are exactly those of the many, many religious debates in which I have participated over the decades.

For the record, your Supposed WC Apologist also just finished rereading William Matson Law's highly readable In the Eye of History in connection with revisiting the truly puzzling death of William Bruce Pitzer. The interviews are of uneven quality - O'Neill and Sibert, who both strongly disavowed the SBT, are excellent - but anyone with a semi-open mind cannot avoid the nagging suspicion that the orthodox LN narrative is not the full story. I, however, have no deep emotional need to plant my flag in any particular notion of what the missing pieces may be; as with all areas of weirdness in which I am involved, I can live with the ambiguity and uncertainty. I don't need a JFKA church.

[Tommy Shanks]

I would recommend Oswald’s Game by Jean Davison, Oswald’s Tale by Norman Mailer, Case Closed by Gerald Posner, With Malice by Dale Myers and Accessories After the Fact by Sylvia Meagher.