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Online Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Which Six Books Would You Recommend to a Newcomer?
« Reply #21 on: Today at 02:09:15 PM »
Six Seconds in Dallas
Last Second in Dallas
JFK: Absolute Proof
No More Silence
Mafia Kingfish: Carlos Marcello and the Assassination of John F. Kennedy
The Plot to Kill the President

Those are all good books, but they're all pro-conspiracy, so a newcomer would get no unfiltered presentation of the pro-WC view. They would also get no exposure to the mortal-error view. The mortal-error view is a minority viewpoint, but it has a number of adherents, and it is based on some hard evidence that refutes the idea that Oswald fired three shots and that one of them hit JFK's head.

Last Second in Dallas is especially important because it contains over 100 pages of material on the crucial new research on the acoustical evidence done by BBN scientists from 2015-2018.

 
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Re: Which Six Books Would You Recommend to a Newcomer?
« Reply #22 on: Today at 03:24:48 PM »
Six Seconds in Dallas
Last Second in Dallas
JFK: Absolute Proof
No More Silence
Mafia Kingfish: Carlos Marcello and the Assassination of John F. Kennedy
The Plot to Kill the President

All of these books will end up on history's clearance table, as they should, while the WCR will continue to stand tall as the definitive account of JFKA as it has since it was first released to the public almost 62 years ago.

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Re: Which Six Books Would You Recommend to a Newcomer?
« Reply #23 on: Today at 04:07:28 PM »
All of these books will end up on history's clearance table, as they should, while the WCR will continue to stand tall as the definitive account of JFKA as it has since it was first released to the public almost 62 years ago.

I predict my question will offend the sensibilities of all LNs as well as most CTs. If so, is the reaction I predict merely coincidental, or did it serve to justify
the time and financial cost it must have expended to arrive as a problem solving strategy that has turned into a nearly completer success in its obvious goal, to confuse and make both LNs and CTs look much more ridiculous than the contents and "conclusions" of the Warren Report, arrived at during the limits of a strict, politically motivated deadline, VS following the evidence wherever it led, regardless of total monetary costs and length of time required?

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Thomas H. Purvis - Posted July 18, 2013

As was long ago indicated on this forum, the Clay Shaw/Garrison case was little more than a massive "smoke screen" that was created in order to mis-direct the attentions of those who were making attempt at resolving the issues of the assassination.

In event there is any difficulty in location of these postings, one may want to look up the terminology "Land Sharks".

Tom

P.S. John.-----Glad to see that you have re-opened the forum. With the 50th anniversary of the event soon approaching there will no doubt be many who are searching for some of the factual truths.

Many of which can be found on this forum.
Authors and film producers authored products for sale. Admitting there is persuasive new research evidence tending
to prove their entire conspiracy scenarios unreliable, is not something almost any of them are inclined to do!

Stone and DiEugenio are about the last people open to or politely gracious enough to consideration of facts of sufficient weight to seriously
call into question who Garrison and his agenda truly were. DiEugenio, for example insulates himself with a belief system
intolerant to consideration that there was nothing sinister about the provenance of the postal money order linked to the
payment for the alleged assassination rifle.

The most inflexible conspiracy cult members to considering impeaching evidence are the supporters of the book authored by John Armstrong.

Instead of reading or watching products for sale, join an active JFK Assassination forum and do all of your own research.

My research impeached author Peter Janney's claims in his book Mary's Mosaic, that Mary was assassinated by a shadowy witness who testified
against attorney Dovey Roundtree's murder trial defendant in 1965 and then vanished off the face of the earth, protected by the CIA, ever since.
As a consequence Janney had to issue a revision of his book.

I found proof Garrison and Mellen's CIA people were actually first cousin brothers of Garrison's wife, Leah, and that Shaw had been informed
by one of the two, David Baldwin, shortly after Shaw's indictment, that he was Leah Garrison's Godfather as well as her cousin.
So Shaw knew this information early and author Joan Mellen, who knew Garrison personally since 1969, proved she was kept from awareness of those
relationships, IOW, never informed of them by Garrison.,

Joan Mellen's "CIA person", David Baldwin advised his former Trade Mart boss, Clay Shaw, of the following, soon after Shaw's indictment of inconvenient facts
neither, along with Nicholas Lemann, ever disclosed on the record or obviously to Joan Mellen or to the editor of Garrison's biography and writer of the JFK, the movie screenplay, Jeremy Sklar!

Supporting citations available here,:
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?topic=2296.0

Have you ever resented learning something new or having someone like me put it in front of your face, but not wanting to
know because it contradicts what you know you already know? It happens to me too often and I resent it and assume others are similarly unappreciative of suddenly learning unimpeachable truth.

Despite my 2016 discovery that Mildred Crumb Lyons Lemann (wife of NOLA attorney Monty Lemann) was step-mother of Garrison accused, "WDSU outside counsel" distributing CIA funds to pay lawyers representing clients obstructing the Garrison investigation, Stephen B. Lemann and his brother, Thomas B. Lemann, father of prominent, chronic Garrison critic Nicholas B. Lemann, and that Mildred C.L. Lemann also happened to have a daughter, also Mildred, married to former CIA covert agent, David G. Baldwin, described by author Joan Mellen,

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Tom S.  April 12, 2016 at 1:25 pm

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Unredacted Episode 1: Transcript of Interview with Joan Mellen
Joan Mellen is the author of A Farewell to Justice: Jim Garrison, JFK’s Assassination, and the Case That Should Have Changed History. This interview was conducted on 22 Feb 2006. Tyler Weaver provided the introduction, and the interview was conducted by Rex Bradford.
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REX: I – I think –

JOAN: – when (Attorney Edward) Baldwin was present, he was a CIA asset, his brother worked for the International Trade Mart and Clay Shaw, David Baldwin, and these, these are CIA people….

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In the course of attempting to determine if my new fact checked research details were actually original, I found identical details, by author of a biography of Clay Shaw, Donald H Carpenter.



https://books.google.com/books?id=9mQtAgAAQBAJ&pg=PT138&lpg=PT138&dq="joan+mellen"...


Nicholas Lemann wrote a scathing review in GQ magazine late 1991 of about to be released, JFK, the movie, followed by an appearance on the Charlie Rose TV
show to discuss and debate the reliability of that film, with its screenplay writer, Zachary Sklar, who Lemann had obviously not disclosed the conflicts of interests
involving Lemann's own key familial relationships, His uncle, Steohen Lemann was accused by Garrison as being the CIA pay master in New Orleans, His father Thomas and uncle, Stephen, were board members and part owners of the holding company that owned WDSU TV and radio....

Jesse Core just happened to be feated at a party in reaction to his wedding engagement, held at the Dallas home then owner occupied, said owner later renting
that home to Gen. Edwin Walker....

https://archive.org/details/Charlie-Rose-1991-12-30
Charlie Rose 1991-12-30 : PBS : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming …
Dec 30, 1991 · Nicholas Lemann, David Denby, and Zachary Sklar debate Oliver Stone's JFK; Art Spiegelman on his new book; actor Martin Sheen.

Does this not resemble false representation to a court?
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Russo v. Conde Nast Publications, 806 F. Supp. 603 (E.D. La. 1992)
US District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana - 806 F. Supp. 603 (E.D. La. 1992)
November 17, 1992
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UNDISPUTED FACTUAL BACKGROUND:

In its January, 1992 issue, GQ Magazine published an article entitled "The Case Against Jim Garrison" (hereafter the "GQ article"). The GQ article was written by Nicholas B. Lemann, a New Orleans native and winner of numerous awards for his books and articles. The GQ article was a personal memoir[1] of Lemann's recollections of growing up in New Orleans during District Attorney Jim Garrison's prosecution of Clay Shaw for allegedly conspiring to assassinate JFK.

The 1991 movie release, JFK sparked renewed interest in the assassination as well as the prosecution itself of Clay Shaw. The film was purportedly based on Garrison's book, On the Trail of Assassins, and sympathetically portrayed Garrison.

The GQ article published by Lemann took a different slant, expressing his view that Shaw's prosecution was built on flimsy evidence and was a tremendous embarrassment to the city.[2] The thrust of Lemann's article was his opinion countering that expressed by Stone in his film release JFK, to wit:.....
.....Not only is the Garrison-Stone case for the greater importance of the Kennedy assassination essentially a fantasy, its strange that they feel it has to be made at all.... Garrison and Stone are trying to make it into something more: the main turning point in American history which it wasn't. Garrison, for all these years, has been engaged in a witch-hunt, not a genuine attempt to solve a crime. Like all witch hunts, his has been based on the idea that some vast, mysterious evil has society in its grip. If the sense *605 of pervasive corruption isn't there, then Garrison's mission (and, even more, his method) somehow completely loses its aura of virtue.[3]
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Re: Which Six Books Would You Recommend to a Newcomer?
« Reply #24 on: Today at 04:28:17 PM »
All of these books will end up on history's clearance table, as they should, while the WCR will continue to stand tall as the definitive account of JFKA as it has since it was first released to the public almost 62 years ago.

Thanks for the good laugh!

FYI, three of those books were bestsellers and were widely acclaimed. They were also extensively cited in later scholarly books on evidence of Mafia involvement written by historians Dr. Richard Mahoney and Dr. David Kaiser.

Last Second in Dallas, published in 2021, is still selling well. Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Richard Rhodes, a graduate of Yale University, wrote the foreword for the book. What do you suppose Rhodes sees in the book that you don't?

BTW, you might want to read the HSCA's critique of the WC's investigation.

Anyway, do you plan on providing your list of six books that you'd recommend to a newcomer, or are you just here to snipe and posture?


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Re: Which Six Books Would You Recommend to a Newcomer?
« Reply #25 on: Today at 05:50:16 PM »
Thanks for the good laugh!

FYI, three of those books were bestsellers and were widely acclaimed.

So was Gone With The Wind. Do you think that was a factual account as well?
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They were also extensively cited in later scholarly books on evidence of Mafia involvement written by historians Dr. Richard Mahoney and Dr. David Kaiser.

I always get a chuckle when you throw around the word "scholarly".

Last Second in Dallas, published in 2021, is still selling well. Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Richard Rhodes, a graduate of Yale University, wrote the foreword for the book. What do you suppose Rhodes sees in the book that you don't? [/quote]

You'd have to ask Rhodes that. Your mention of "a graduate of Yale University" reminds me of the line from the movie Quiz Show spoken by Albert Freedman and the gesture he made. "Ooh, Harvard Law School".

BTW, you might want to read the HSCA's critique of the WC's investigation.[/quote]

Why would I care what an investigation that got it wrong have to say about the investigation that got it right.
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Anyway, do you plan on providing your list of six books that you'd recommend to a newcomer, or are you just here to snipe and posture?

No.