That Bucket Alongside the JFK Limo At Parkland = An Altered Crime Scene

[Royell Storing]

Royell Storing...

First, the high-speed race to Parkland would have altered any and all "blood spatter" evidence, so your point is rendered moot.

Second, the bucket inside the Trauma room does not have a top (lid?) on it.

   Hey Bill - Disagree regarding the "lid".
                 You do Not know for a fact that the high-speed chase, "would have altered any and ALL blood spatter evidence.....". And if what you are claiming was true, why did the FBI take photos of the JFK Limo back seat area?   

[John Mytton]

   JOHN - The discovery of this film footage completely destroys the Urban Legend of that Scrub Bucket being connected to the JFK Limo Top inside the Limo Trunk. And the fact this guy, (in the suit), is quickly whisking the Scrub Bucket away from the JFK Limo screams SS. Washed away Blood Splatter would have told us much as to where the shot(s) originated from. At a minimum, this film footage shows the SS was involved in a Cover Up within minutes of the Kill Shot. This footage indicts the SS along with dispelling yet another JFK Urban Legend.   

They were outside in public and no one has ever come forward and said that anybody was cleaning the limo and then there was at least 2 cameramen who were looking for money shots and if someone was cleaning the limo, then the cameramen would have captured the event.

SS agent Sam Kinney's recollection of refusing any cleaning of the Limo fits perfectly with the graphic image of the rear seat.

As for direction and origin of the bullets we have a plethora of evidence proving that they came from behind.
The vast majority of the eyewitnesses say there was only one exit wound on Kennedy's head.
And both Connally's describe being covered in biological matter.

Governor CONNALLY. ...Immediately I could see on my clothes, my clothing, I could see on the interior of the car which, as I recall, was a pale blue, brain tissue, which I immediately recognized, and I recall very well, on my trousers there was one chunk of brain tissue as big as almost my thumb, thumbnail...

Mrs. CONNALLY. ...The third shot that I heard I felt, it felt like spent buckshot falling all over us, and then, of course, I too could see that it was the matter, brain tissue, or whatever, just human matter, all over the car and both of us.

The inside of the Limo shows the graphic results of a strike from behind and like the Connally's describe and therefore corroborate, brain tissue in front of JFK.



Two large bullet fragments were recovered from the Limo and within the Limo, there was two obvious strikes from fast moving fragments.





The dent in the windscreen frame, above the mirror.



The crack in the windscreen was also captured in Altgens 7.



And finally as shown in Zapruder frame 313, we see all the matter moving forward and away from Oswald in his sniper's nest!



JohnM

[Lance Payette]

It appears to me this thread has kicked the bucket.

[Michael T. Griffith]

We have all viewed the images of the "bucket" sitting on the ground alongside the JFK Limo at Parkland Hospital. And we have been told that the bucket came out of the JFK Limo trunk. That this out-of-place bucket held the tool(s) and nuts-n-bolts that were required to install the JFK Limo Top. This "tale" is simply another JFK Assassination Urban Legend. It's been repeated over-n-over until it has been accepted as being fact. It is Not Fact. It is Fiction. That Bucket did Not come out of the trunk of the JFK Limo. It did Not hold tool(s) or nuts-n-bolts. That bucket came out of Parkland Hospital. It is a "Scrub Bucket". It was used to "Scrub Down" the backseat area of the JFK Limo. This "Scrub Down" made the backseat area of the JFK Limo an ALTERED CRIME SCENE. ALL FBI Photos of the JFK Limo backseat area are photos of an Altered Crime Scene.
If this bucket originally came out of the JFK Limo Trunk, it should have gone back into the JFK Limo Trunk after the JFK Limo Top was installed. This "Scrub Bucket" did NOT go back into the JFK Limo Trunk after that Top was completely installed.
I have found B/W film footage showing the JFK Limo Top having been completely installed, and the JFK Limo Trunk CLOSED. All work on the Top is done. This film footage also shows a suited man walking alongside the JFK Limo. He is carrying the "Scrub Bucket" by its' handle toward/into Parkland Hospital. He is walking AWAY from the JFK Limo Trunk with this "Scrub Bucket" in hand. This "Scrub Bucket" originated from Parkland Hospital, and this suited man is now returning it to whence it came.

Luckily, a number of people saw the limo before the cleaning started, and they mentioned seeing brain matter on the sides of the car's interior, among other things.       

                     
                                         
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[Royell Storing]

They were outside in public and no one has ever come forward and said that anybody was cleaning the limo and then there was at least 2 cameramen who were looking for money shots and if someone was cleaning the limo, then the cameramen would have captured the event.

SS agent Sam Kinney's recollection of refusing any cleaning of the Limo fits perfectly with the graphic image of the rear seat.

As for direction and origin of the bullets we have a plethora of evidence proving that they came from behind.
The vast majority of the eyewitnesses say there was only one exit wound on Kennedy's head.
And both Connally's describe being covered in biological matter.

Governor CONNALLY. ...Immediately I could see on my clothes, my clothing, I could see on the interior of the car which, as I recall, was a pale blue, brain tissue, which I immediately recognized, and I recall very well, on my trousers there was one chunk of brain tissue as big as almost my thumb, thumbnail...

Mrs. CONNALLY. ...The third shot that I heard I felt, it felt like spent buckshot falling all over us, and then, of course, I too could see that it was the matter, brain tissue, or whatever, just human matter, all over the car and both of us.

The inside of the Limo shows the graphic results of a strike from behind and like the Connally's describe and therefore corroborate, brain tissue in front of JFK.



Two large bullet fragments were recovered from the Limo and within the Limo, there was two obvious strikes from fast moving fragments.





The dent in the windscreen frame, above the mirror.



The crack in the windscreen was also captured in Altgens 7.



And finally as shown in Zapruder frame 313, we see all the matter moving forward and away from Oswald in his sniper's nest!



JohnM

   JOHN - Thanks for contributing your opinion on The Wash Bucket and the possible Washing Down of the JFK Limo backseat area. As always, I value it.
              This Bucket/Limo Wash Down issue has been discussed numerous times previously. The answer proffered has ALWAYS been that the bucket came out of the JFK Limo Trunk and contained tool(s) and nuts-n-bolts that were necessary to install the Top of the JFK Limo. The CBS Film Footage that I found on the Gerda Dunckel piece has Now removed yet another JFK Urban Legend from any further serious consideration. That Bucket was obviously carried back inside Parkland Hospital from whence it came. This transporting of The Wash Bucket occurring long before the JFK Limo departed Parkland Hospital and boarded the C-130. SS Kinney and his attempted "back filling" of this Bucket/Wash Down Issue, roughly 15 yrs after-the-fact, pale in comparison to the 11/22/63 B/W Film Footage and SS Kinney's very own 11/22/63 statement.
               I do Not dispute shot(s) being fired from behind JFK. The evidence of this is clear and convincing.  Where we differ is You seem to believe that ALL the shots that were fired came from Behind JFK. This requires buying into: (1) A Very Early 1st shot, (2) A Lost Bullet, and, (3) The SBT. There is simply not the necessary evidence to elicit my support of this Trifecta.