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Online Royell Storing

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #77 on: July 23, 2026, 05:19:00 PM »

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  STEVE - Remember that there are Very Young Newbes to the JFK Assassination among us. They might think your visual aid/pic above was actually taken on 11/22/63. In the future, please attach some sort of disclaimer to posted pics that were Not taken on 11/22/63. PS - (The background scenery is way off)
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Online John Corbett

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #78 on: July 24, 2026, 08:15:00 PM »
Is JFK coughing up blood?
Is there blood on JFK's hands?

Given that the picture in question is an AI generated version of a frame that was taken about 1/4 second following JFK and JBC being shot, I doubt any blood would be showing. That's would be unlikely even if this had been an actual close-up photo.

Offline Steve Barber

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #79 on: July 27, 2026, 02:50:04 AM »
  STEVE - Remember that there are Very Young Newbes to the JFK Assassination among us. They might think your visual aid/pic above was actually taken on 11/22/63. In the future, please attach some sort of disclaimer to posted pics that were Not taken on 11/22/63. PS - (The background scenery is way off)

 
 Thanks much, Royell.  I corrected my mistake of forgetting to include he caption.

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #80 on: July 27, 2026, 04:33:52 PM »
Hi Steve. your copies of the Z film frames seem to be better than the ones I have. Could you show frame Z230 in the same way you have showed the frames above? I'd like to see that particular frame because I can't seem to fathom it. Thanks....James.

 Hi James,

 My  Z frames are from the MPI DVD, I just brightened them up a little. 
I hope this frame 230 is what you need.


Best regards,
 Steve

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #81 on: July 27, 2026, 05:58:40 PM »
Thank you for that. We see that Jack Kennedy is clearly hit and JC is looking forward, in no discomfort and still holding his hat in his right hand. That ties with the testimony of Nell and John Connally quite well when they said JC was hit two seconds after Kennedy.

Ann Donaldson, Woodward's roommate, clears up Woodward's confusion. She states there were only two shots. Just like the majority of the other eyewitnesses. Brown and Alonzo must have agreed.

Another example of no Early Missed Shot having ever occurred. Like another one was needed to prove the point.

Courtesy of Pat Speer's website.

Ann Donaldson (11-22-63 first person account published in the Washington Evening Star, Second Extra Edition. Note: this article was apparently picked up from a Jackson, Mississippi paper.) "I was standing 70 feet from President Kennedy when he was assassinated today and saw him fall under the bullet that killed him. Mrs. Jacqueline Kennedy threw herself over his body as the President's car speeded up as soon as the driver realized what had happened. The crowd began to scream and wail and people standing nearby began to throw their children on the ground for safety. I heard two shots. The first shot sounded like a firecracker and the President heard it. He turned to look, as did everyone else, and then the second shot sounded. This time the President fell. Then there was only chaos.

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #82 on: July 27, 2026, 10:09:09 PM »
Comparing Z223 to Z224 shows the moment JBC's jacket bulged out from the bullet that exited from just below his right nipple. Comparing Z224 to Z225 shows that his right arm was still moving down at the time he came into full view from behind the sign. Comparing Z225 to Z226 shows that JFK's arms started upward at frame Z226 and also show that JBC's right arm started upward at the same time.

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #83 on: July 27, 2026, 10:18:11 PM »
Ann Donaldson, Woodward's roommate, clears up Woodward's confusion. She states there were only two shots. Just like the majority of the other eyewitnesses. Brown and Alonzo must have agreed.
Ann Donaldson said there were three shots in her Sixth Floor Oral History - the relevant parts are around the 20:00 minute mark.  She said there was a loud noise - the first shot - and then two more shots. 

You shouldn't believe everything you read in newspapers. Sometimes reporters get things wrong.