Summary of Some of the Major Problems with the JFK Medical Evidence

[Ted Sager]

How did the dent by the mirror happen then? X-ray showed clean pass through. Where did this slug go?? Bullet hit K in top of his head, blew out right front, making this a left rear shot. Shooter's location shows in Z-film.

[Tom Graves]

How did the dent by the mirror happen then? X-ray showed clean pass through. Where did this slug go?? Bullet hit K in top of his head, blew out right front, making this a left rear shot. Shooter's location shows in Z-film.

It was probably caused by a largish bullet fragment from the Z-313 shot.

Another fragment from that shot may have hit the curb down by James Tague and caused a piece of concrete to nick his face.

[Michael T. Griffith]

Quote from: Ted Sager on Today at 07:30:01 AM
How did the dent by the mirror happen then? X-ray showed clean pass through. Where did this slug go?? Bullet hit K in top of his head, blew out right front, making this a left rear shot. Shooter's location shows in Z-film.

It was probably caused by a largish bullet fragment from the Z-313 shot.

That's very implausible. Any fragment exiting JFK's skull would have been traveling either upward or rightward, assuming for the sake of argument that the exit wound was exclusively in the right parietal bone (as claimed by the lone-gunman theory). How would a fragment that exited the right side of the skull have magically veered leftward and upward to hit the chrome above the rearview mirror? How would that have worked? 

Another fragment from that shot may have hit the curb down by James Tague and caused a piece of concrete to nick his face.

That's even more ridiculous, for the reasons I detail in my ongoing thread Why the James Tague Wounding Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory

Do you understand that your magic head-shot fragment would have first had to veer markedly leftward and upward just to clear both the roll bar and the windshield and get on course to the curb? Do you understand that the Tague curb spot and Tague himself were to the left of the limo at the time? How would a bullet that exited the right parietal bone have suddenly performed like a guided missile to clear the roll bar and windshield while also veering leftward to get on course to the curb over 200 feet away, and how would it then still have had enough velocity to blast a chip from the curb and send that chip streaking toward Tague with enough force to cut his face?

This is the kind of ludicrous, fairy-tale speculation that one must offer to defend the lone-gunman shooting scenario.

[Tom Graves]

That's very implausible. Any fragment exiting JFK's skull would have been traveling either upward or rightward, assuming for the sake of argument that the exit wound was exclusively in the right parietal bone (as claimed by the lone-gunman theory). How would a fragment that exited the right side of the skull have magically veered leftward and upward to hit the chrome above the rearview mirror? How would that have worked? 

That's even more ridiculous, for the reasons I detail in my ongoing thread https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,5176.0.html]Why the James Tague Wounding Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory

Do you understand that your magic head-shot fragment would have first had to veer markedly leftward and upward just to clear both the roll bar and the windshield and get on course to the curb? Do you understand that the Tague curb spot and Tague himself were to the left of the limo at the time? How would a bullet that exited the right parietal bone have suddenly performed like a guided missile to clear the roll bar and windshield while also veering leftward to get on course to the curb over 200 feet away, and how would it then still have had enough velocity to blast a chip from the curb and send that chip streaking toward Tague with enough force to cut his face?

This is the kind of ludicrous, fairy-tale speculation that one must offer to defend the lone-gunman shooting scenario.

Dear Comrade Griffith,

Perhaps you should look into it.

-- Tom

[John Corbett]

That's very implausible. Any fragment exiting JFK's skull would have been traveling either upward or rightward, assuming for the sake of argument that the exit wound was exclusively in the right parietal bone (as claimed by the lone-gunman theory). How would a fragment that exited the right side of the skull have magically veered leftward and upward to hit the chrome above the rearview mirror? How would that have worked? 

That's even more ridiculous, for the reasons I detail in my ongoing thread https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,5176.0.html]Why the James Tague Wounding Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory

Do you understand that your magic head-shot fragment would have first had to veer markedly leftward and upward just to clear both the roll bar and the windshield and get on course to the curb? Do you understand that the Tague curb spot and Tague himself were to the left of the limo at the time? How would a bullet that exited the right parietal bone have suddenly performed like a guided missile to clear the roll bar and windshield while also veering leftward to get on course to the curb over 200 feet away, and how would it then still have had enough velocity to blast a chip from the curb and send that chip streaking toward Tague with enough force to cut his face?

This is the kind of ludicrous, fairy-tale speculation that one must offer to defend the lone-gunman shooting scenario.

MTG seems to have tunnel vision when it comes to recognizing possible scenarios, not just for this one issue. He thinks by refuting one possible explanation, he refutes all of them, including the ones he has ignored. For example, he acts as if Posner's theory that the first shot struck a tree branch is the only option to explain how the first shot could have missed and still caused the Tague injury.

The defect in JFK's skull caused by the head shot was not limited to the side of his head. It also extended into the top of the skull. MTG also fails to take into account JFK was leaning to his left when the shot struck his head which would move the defect area more toward the top of than the side of his head. While I think a fragment from the headshot is a less likely explanation for Tague's injury than a ricochet from the first shot, I don't think we have enough information to completely dismiss it.

[Michael T. Griffith]

Dear Comrade Griffith,

"Comrade"? This nuttiness again? What kind of a wingnut are you? Where do they find you people? It is indeed fair to ask, "Why do JFK assassination forums draw so many nut cases?" As I've told you before, if you knew anything about my politics and ideology, I'm the last person you'd call "comrade."

Perhaps you should look into it.

So this is your answer to the facts I pointed out about the problematic trajectories and physics involved with your explanation of the chrome dent and the Tague wounding?

When someone points out the impossible aspects of the absurd theories you guys float to uphold the lone-gunman theory, you either duck and dodge with one-liners like yours or you double-down on absurdity.

[John Corbett]

"Comrade"? This nuttiness again? What kind of a wingnut are you? Where do they find you people? It is indeed fair to ask, "Why do JFK assassination forums draw so many nut cases?" As I've told you before, if you knew anything about my politics and ideology, I'm the last person you'd call "comrade."

So this is your answer to the facts I pointed out about the problematic trajectories and physics involved with your explanation of the chrome dent and the Tague wounding?

When someone points out the impossible aspects of the absurd theories you guys float to uphold the lone-gunman theory, you either duck and dodge with one-liners like yours or you double-down on absurdity.

Claiming something is impossible is quite different from proving something is impossible. You are constantly doing the former while never doing the latter. Why should anyone take seriously?