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The Wound In Gov. Connally's Back
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Kevin Balch on June 17, 2026, 08:40:01 PM ---I’ll believe JBC’s interpretation of the Z film of being hit at 234 over yours. But thanks for sharing your opinion.
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So you think JBC could sync up what he felt with what he saw in the Z-film. He did come close. He was less than a second off. JBC remembered his cognitive reaction to being shot. He doubled over and twisted to his right and he saw he did that after Z234. What JBC didn't remember was his involuntary, reflexive response of flipping his right are up and back down. He never looked for the response he didn't remember making. That arm flip came less than a half a second before his cognitive reaction.
I've never heard any CT even attempt to explain JBC's arm flip or why it happened at precisely that same frame that JFK's raised his arms. Since they have no explanation for why JBC would suddenly flip his right arm up and down so they just choose to ignore it. I'm betting you will do the same.
Kevin Balch:
--- Quote from: Benjamin Cole on Yesterday at 12:45:37 AM ---KB--
IMHO, you are correct, that JBC's wound-shape and the small round bullet-hole in his shirt suggest he was largely facing forward when shot by a non-tumbling bullet from behind. That is what the evidence shows. That is what Dr. Robert Shaw, his surgeon, thought most likely.
We know what the Connallys testified to, and Nellie had a ringside seat, and was uninjured, and was remarkably cool in a same-day press conference.
So, if the Connallys are correct, when was JBC struck?
My best guess is sometime after Z-295, but before Z-313.
Of course, many, many witnesses described the "bang....bang-bang" cadence of shots.
That cadence lines up with JFK hit ~Z-221, JBC at ~Z-295+ and JFK at Z-313.
Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.
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There are also some who believe that it was the first two shots that were closer together, though not as many who recall it being the last two that were bunched together.
At Saturday night NPIC briefing board preparation, Dino Brugioni said the secret service was particularly interested in the frames near when JFK disappeared and reappeared from behind the sign. No, the film was not altered and I don’t believe NPIC had the original film which was still in Chicago and probably damaged by that time.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Kevin Balch on Yesterday at 01:01:21 AM ---There are also some who believe that it was the first two shots that were closer together, though not as many who recall it being the last two that were bunched together.
At Saturday night NPIC briefing board preparation, Dino Brugioni said the secret service was particularly interested in the frames near when JFK disappeared and reappeared from behind the sign. No, the film was not altered and I don’t believe NPIC had the original film which was still in Chicago and probably damaged by that time.
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The truth is not subject to majority rule. Although there is no definitive proof of when the first shot was taken, I firmly believe the preponderance of evidence is that it was fired in the Z147-148 window which would mean there were about 4 seconds between the first and second shots and about 5 seconds between the second and third shots. What muddies the water is that a single shot can produce multiple sounds and those sounds for the third shot would seem to be right on top of each other. Because the bullet traveled at roughly twice the speed of sound, witnesses near the limo would hear those other sounds before they heard the muzzle blast from the sniper's nest. The impact on JFK's skull, the mini-sonic boom of a bullet passing over their heads, the impact on the windshield frame would all produce sounds that would reach the ears of the nearby witnesses before the muzzle blast.
Lance Payette:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on Yesterday at 01:11:22 AM ---The truth is not subject to majority rule. Although there is no definitive proof of when the first shot was taken, I firmly believe the preponderance of evidence is that it was fired in the Z147-148 window which would mean there were about 4 seconds between the first and second shots and about 5 seconds between the second and third shots. What muddies the water is that a single shot can produce multiple sounds and those sounds for the third shot would seem to be right on top of each other. Because the bullet traveled at roughly twice the speed of sound, witnesses near the limo would hear those other sounds before they heard the muzzle blast from the sniper's nest. The impact on JFK's skull, the mini-sonic boom of a bullet passing over their heads, the impact on the windshield frame would all produce sounds that would reach the ears of the nearby witnesses before the muzzle blast.
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While the truth is not subject to majority rule, the fact that one LN zealot "firmly believes" the "preponderance of evidence" shows something is not exactly dispositive either.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Lance Payette on Yesterday at 01:17:50 AM ---While the truth is not subject to majority rule, the fact that one LN zealot "firmly believes" the "preponderance of evidence" shows something is not exactly dispositive either.
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The LN position is not dependent on identifying when the first shot was fired. The shot missed so it's hardly necessary to identify when it missed to reach he ironclad conclusion that LHO fired the shots that killed JFK. It is simply not possible for the state of the evidence to be what it is if somebody else had fired the shots. If i were, somebody would have come up with it by now. The CT position is that we should not believe what he evidence is telling us.
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